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Originally Posted by Choggs396 View Post
Please tell me that was sarcasm, friend.

How could someone NOT be motivated in terms of contributing to one of the most epic and enthralling stories in PC gaming history?!? :O
http://gaming.icrontic.com/article/g...pment-process/

As it’s described it seems more like an art co-op than a video game company. In most video game studios, you have a strictly hierarchic structure, in which orders flow downhill, and in which the developers and designers who actually make the games are usually just ‘following orders’ from above, and have little input on the creative process. If you belonged to a painters studio, however, you would each work on your own things, sometimes teaming up, sometimes not, and going to leadership of the studio only for occasional advice and approval of projects to take on the studio’s banner.

Valve works much more like that painting co-op than it does a typical game studio.

For example, according to Newell, the reason there was no Source engine on Playstation 3 before now was that no one at the company had been interested in building one. Sure, it would have been profitable, it would have been good for the company, but Newell would never tell his employees what to work on. If no one ever decides to make a PS3 engine, then Valve won’t be releasing one. It seems like it couldn’t possibly be that simple, but unless it’s an elaborate ruse, this is how Valve works.

Portal 2 was created by a small team which chose to make Portal 2, starting with the ARG stuff a year or so ago, and picking up steam (pun intended) as others at Valve saw what they were doing and joined the project.

This means that we finally have a hint as to why there has been no new content in the Half-life franchise: No one at Valve is excited enough by the project to work on it.
post #22 of 41
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Originally Posted by IcedEarth View Post
I think you all mean HL4, eps 1-3 are HL3, theoretically, or at least that was their intention until they screwed up the naming scheme.

It's funny how they broke it down into episodic releases to speed up production and release times, yet we're waiting longer than ever, it makes no sense.

They're kind of like Blizzard though, they're sitting on a pile of gold and they know that, so they just take their time and put no real effort into it. Diablo, Starcraft and Warcraft all come to mind, HL pretty much sits with those in the 'let's wait 10 years for a sequel' category.'
Hmmm how many blizzard and valve games get bashed for sucking, having trouble thinking of them. Now lets see other publishers who rush things out like a new cod every year, black ops was terrible and buggy as hell when it came out, maybe they could do with an extended development period.
The point is as long as they release quality stuff I am not unhappy with how long they take to release stuff. Ill wait 10 years for a quality game as opposed to the same **** every year.
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Hmmm how many blizzard and valve games get bashed for sucking, having trouble thinking of them. Now lets see other publishers who rush things out like a new cod every year, black ops was terrible and buggy as hell when it came out, maybe they could do with an extended development period.
The point is as long as they release quality stuff I am not unhappy with how long they take to release stuff. Ill wait 10 years for a quality game as opposed to the same **** every year.
ehhh... I personally find wow to be completely unenjoyable, but that's personal taste. It's mostly because pvp is a joke [imo].

anyways, I agree that both devs are for the most part very good and that if they need to spend more time on a game to make it properly, they shouldn't be rushed about it.

let's just hope diablo 3 and ep.3 don't go the route of duke nukem.
    
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post #24 of 41
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ehhh... I personally find wow to be completely unenjoyable, but that's personal taste. It's mostly because pvp is a joke [imo].

anyways, I agree that both devs are for the most part very good and that if they need to spend more time on a game to make it properly, they shouldn't be rushed about it.

let's just hope diablo 3 and ep.3 don't go the route of duke nukem.
we actually have info on d3 unlike ep3. Pretty sure d3 will be released around october-january they also said they wanted to do beta in august i think
post #25 of 41
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Originally Posted by ntherblast View Post
http://gaming.icrontic.com/article/g...pment-process/

As it’s described it seems more like an art co-op than a video game company. In most video game studios, you have a strictly hierarchic structure, in which orders flow downhill, and in which the developers and designers who actually make the games are usually just ‘following orders’ from above, and have little input on the creative process. If you belonged to a painters studio, however, you would each work on your own things, sometimes teaming up, sometimes not, and going to leadership of the studio only for occasional advice and approval of projects to take on the studio’s banner.

Valve works much more like that painting co-op than it does a typical game studio.

For example, according to Newell, the reason there was no Source engine on Playstation 3 before now was that no one at the company had been interested in building one. Sure, it would have been profitable, it would have been good for the company, but Newell would never tell his employees what to work on. If no one ever decides to make a PS3 engine, then Valve won’t be releasing one. It seems like it couldn’t possibly be that simple, but unless it’s an elaborate ruse, this is how Valve works.

Portal 2 was created by a small team which chose to make Portal 2, starting with the ARG stuff a year or so ago, and picking up steam (pun intended) as others at Valve saw what they were doing and joined the project.

This means that we finally have a hint as to why there has been no new content in the Half-life franchise: No one at Valve is excited enough by the project to work on it.
I know this is about HL3 or EP3 not being released, but man is Gabe awesome. I think that's freaking amazing that if the team has no interest in creating something, he won't make them do it.
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post #26 of 41
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every diehard pc gamer craves ep 3
Huh? I thought every sane PC gamer laughed like a madman at the whole idea of episodes. It's a money grab, pure and simple. Neither Ep.1 or Ep.2 offered anything new or original. I wish Valve would just forget the whole thing ever happened and made Half-Life 3. I also wish Valve fanboys would stop dreaming of performing fellatio on Newell, it's annoying to say the least.
Edited by nielsbohr - 7/19/11 at 7:39am
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Huh? I thought every sane PC gamer laughed like a madman at the whole idea of episodes. It's a money grab, pure and simple. Neither Ep.1 or Ep.2 offered anything new or original. I wish Valve would just forget the whole thing ever happened and made Half-Life 3. I also wish Valve fanboys would stop dreaming of performing fellatio on Newell, it's annoying to say the least.
    
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I thought I saw someone's video on Youtube where there was a tiny HL2EP3 booth that didn't get much attention. I also read somewhere that Valve confirmed that it was coming, they weren't sure on a date though.
If you're talking about FreddieW's E3 video, you do realize that the helicopters were fake, right?
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didnt valve say they were done with single player, newell said something like that

the reason being, I imagine is, single player games are pirated, multiplayer games cannot be pirated

steam was started as nothing more than anti piracy measure, and valve doesnt want to spend 50 million+ making an epic single player game only to have millions of people download it for free.
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didnt valve say they were done with single player, newell said something like that

the reason being, I imagine is, single player games are pirated, multiplayer games cannot be pirated

steam was started as nothing more than anti piracy measure, and valve doesnt want to spend 50 million+ making an epic single player game only to have millions of people download it for free.
he stated that there were done with only singleplayer games, that they would all have some sort of co-op or multiplayer, but not that no more singleplayer campaing would be done.

probably they will all have the option to be co-op.
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