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Ok could you give me some direct steps on what to do so i can post the results back?

Edit: OK i've just ran resource monitor. I am going to select the game and isolate the usage and post a screenie on here.

Edit: Here is a shot. 47 usage on average for BFBC2. Also Kcuestag ran his i7 2600k with no HT at 4.6Ghz. His usage was the same as mine at 4Ghz with HT during my test with 4Ghz no HT testing. Same game, same cards ect.
Edit: This screenshot i've provided is with HT and 4Ghz.
Edit: Also someone said to delete the Dx files in BFBc2 for better performance? Is that true? Any side effects to that?

Edited by BradleyW - 7/22/11 at 7:38am
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What does your gpu usage look like?

Can you turn down the graphical settings a bit so they run higher fps - then post back the resource monitor like you did with afterburner showing usage next to it?
    
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What does your gpu usage look like?

Can you turn down the graphical settings a bit so they run higher fps - then post back the resource monitor like you did with afterburner showing usage next to it?
If i run afterburner my computer locks up. Also Kcuestag said even with his 2600k 4.6Ghz his usage is same as my usage and he also does not get full usage on his GPU's. btw, if i overclock my GPU, i see an fps increase therefor my CPU is not a bottleneck.
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Can you run the game at low res/low iq so we can see exactly how much cpu it will use in total?

I'd do it with my i5 but I only have one 470 right now and it won't max out my cpu even at the lowest settings.
    
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Can you run the game at low res/low iq so we can see exactly how much cpu it will use in total?

I'd do it with my i5 but I only have one 470 right now and it won't max out my cpu even at the lowest settings.
I will run it later on the lowest settings. In the mean time, this was the usage at 4.4Ghz.


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It looks pretty good to me, almost 50% on 8 threads.

Kcuestag was running HT disabled and getting nearly maxed out total cpu usage with his i7-2600k?

Neither of you are getting full gpu utilization, but overclocking provides fps benefits correct?
    
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It looks pretty good to me, almost 50% on 8 threads.

Kcuestag was running HT disabled and getting nearly maxed out total cpu usage with his i7-2600k?

Neither of you are getting full gpu utilization, but overclocking provides fps benefits correct?
Yes he did a test at 4.6Ghz without HT. He looked at the 4 cores and it was very high. He said the usage was between 80 to 90. I did the same test. I would give an average of 80 and a max of 85 percent.

So 40-50% on 8 threads is good? That's very good to know. Yes if i increase the GPU overclock, i see fps gains in all 3d applications. Let me run that low res, settings test. What usage should we expect to see? 70?
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I had some issues so i could not provide a shot, however i ran the game and i saw high usage spikes when loading in levels as expected. During gameplay, the CPU was 48 on average again at low res, low detail ect.
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So you're seeing about the same cpu usage at your native res as you are at low res?

That pretty much defines the cpu to be limited to 50% usage /w 8 threads, or pretty much maxed out with ht disabled.

Sometimes its hard to define a cpu limitation because games handle threads differently, obviously if there is one here its very small and not something you should worry about.

Have you tired directly comparing your system to his in BFBC2 via side by side screens?

I would try that with the sandy clocked higher, but the gpus being @ equal clocks... See if there is any difference in fps in that situation.

My guess is there is some slight cpu limitation going on, however most likely even the sandy is incurring it as well.


By all accounts BFBC2 is capable of using four cores, with HT enabled you're reaching a point where you're hitting 50% total cpu usage from BFBC2 which would indicate 4 threads (4 cores) are being maxed out.

Because you're not always maxing out overclocking the gpus will still provide fps increases in this case, however not in areas where the cpu is limiting which would be reflected in the clocks added not providing the performance it should.


Bottomline is I wouldn't worry about it just yet, however all processors end up going the way of the dinosaur, Sandy isn't he end all be all cpu and it will have a shorter reign than 1366 had.
    
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So you're seeing about the same cpu usage at your native res as you are at low res?

That pretty much defines the cpu to be limited to 50% usage /w 8 threads, or pretty much maxed out with ht disabled.

Sometimes its hard to define a cpu limitation because games handle threads differently, obviously if there is one here its very small and not something you should worry about.

Have you tired directly comparing your system to his in BFBC2 via side by side screens?

I would try that with the sandy clocked higher, but the gpus being @ equal clocks... See if there is any difference in fps in that situation.

My guess is there is some slight cpu limitation going on, however most likely even the sandy is incurring it as well.


By all accounts BFBC2 is capable of using four cores, with HT enabled you're reaching a point where you're hitting 50% total cpu usage from BFBC2 which would indicate 4 threads (4 cores) are being maxed out.

Because you're not always maxing out overclocking the gpus will still provide fps increases in this case, however not in areas where the cpu is limiting which would be reflected in the clocks added not providing the performance it should.


Bottomline is I wouldn't worry about it just yet, however all processors end up going the way of the dinosaur, Sandy isn't he end all be all cpu and it will have a shorter reign than 1366 had.
I believe that the 11.6b drivers are the reason for the higher CPU usage because i've never had this high usage before with this game and GPU setup. The fact that a sandy at 4.6Ghz with HT gets the same usage as my CPU makes me wonder what is going on here. Makes no sence. That CPU should have a much higher gap in terms of performance and low usage.

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It looks pretty good to me, almost 50% on 8 threads.
How good? You have but fear back into me on the CPU usage thing. Hey, as long as am not fully max out, i should not see any fps bottleneck right? I can't run side by side with Kcuestag because he is at a lan party.
Edited by BradleyW - 7/22/11 at 4:15pm
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