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Thank you for the info. I just wanted to ask 1 question. Would it be a good idea to get a i7 970 or would i just get less fps as the game can't use more than 4 threads?
Anyway these are shots with Vsync and Tripple Buffer on. CF. Max Out. 1080p. 4.4 GHz HT.
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Heh, not so fast. There seems to be a difference in imagine quality there. The lower fps screen is much fuller than the higher fps image. And you need to remember in order for HT to provide a performance boost there needs to be one of two things happening:
4 cores needs to be bottlenecking.
and
The game needs to be able to use more than 4 threads, unless of course you have excessive background tasks taking up clock cycles.

Turn triple buffering on if you're going to force vsync, vsync causes input lag.

I run loads of junk biggrin.gif

And I'd forgotten about using "triple buffering" cheers.gif
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Thank you for the info. I just wanted to ask 1 question. Would it be a good idea to get a i7 970 or would i just get less fps as the game can't use more than 4 threads?
Anyway these are shots with Vsync and Tripple Buffer on. CF. Max Out. 1080p. 4.4 GHz HT.

I would not invest in 1366 any further if you have money to burn, save it for SBe.

Clock for clock you should get pretty much the same fps, the extra cores could increase fps though slightly if you run a lot of background tasks like ACHILEE5 does.

In my case PB.exe takes up some clock cycles, having those take place on physical core #5/#6 would allow slightly higher fps since it is a required background task that takes up clock cycles.

As far as your screen shots - as to be expected. When you limit the fps to 60 you are also basically putting vsync on the cpu as well since it now only has to render half the total frames it did before.
    
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Do you have any other advice on lowering the delay time that Vsync creates? Triple buffer did work. I also see that you mension SB-E. When does it come out? Is it socket 1155?
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SBe is socket 2011 afaik, it should come out in Q4 which is quickly approaching.



Triple buffer is the only thing I know of, the other option is to downclock your gpus or increase the gpu load via CCC while keeping vsync off.

I wouldn't worry about high cpu usage if you aren't experiencing screen tearing or having thermal issues though.
    
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SBe is socket 2011 afaik, it should come out in Q4 which is quickly approaching.



Triple buffer is the only thing I know of, the other option is to downclock your gpus or increase the gpu load via CCC while keeping vsync off.

I wouldn't worry about high cpu usage if you aren't experiencing screen tearing or having thermal issues though.

I do have screen tearing with Vsync off. Always have done, always will. Btw i don't understand what Q4 is? Also will Ivy be socket 2011 too?
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I do have screen tearing with Vsync off. Always have done, always will. Btw i don't understand what Q4 is? Also will Ivy be socket 2011 too?

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Are you having a Blond moment Brad biggrin.gif
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@brad - I don't know; I really haven't been tracking it - the enthusiast socket is out of my price range, the only reason I have Intel now is because the i5-2500k killed AMD in my price range (around $230 cpus).

It's quite possible, though I don't know what more Ivy brings to 2011. I know Ivy for 1155 brings native USB 3.0 and PCIe 3.0 increasing gpu bandwidth by twice as much as 1155 currently has.

I'm sure there are people who know quite a bit on that subject matter, however I regret that I am not one of those people frown.gif
    
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Well i've just gone over the "Q4" 11 table and i can see that the Sandy-E 4C and 6C will be the new 2500k and 2600k. These will be mid range. I would expect these CPU's to be around £180 and £260. I am not looking forward to buying a new cooler for the new socket. The only thing that's on my mind is, i want 2 7970's from AMD so i need to upgrade to a new CPU system if i am almost bottlenecked at my i7 920 4.4GHz HT.

Well if the Sandy-E comes out, Sandy 2600k might be much cheaper. That springs another question. Will the 2600k handle 2 7970's in heavy CPU games? It's around 85 usage on 2 6970's lol.
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I don't think 1155 is going to drop in price, so I would assume the 4 core SBe will be about the same price as the i7-2600k.

At which point since there are three chips coming last I saw - $330~ $600~ $1000~ would be my guess as to pricing.

Possibly - not every game is the same. BFBC2 uses Havok physics which I'm sure is where a lot of the usage comes from I think.

If sandy can't, hopefully IB will be able to. The main problem with 1155 is the lack of PCIe lanes, CF is x8/x8 off the cpu. However it is debatable how much that actually matters. With Ivy bringing double the bandwidth in PCIe 3.0 - its questionable if you will need all the lanes 2011 will provide if you are simply using a two gpu configuration with the current level of saturation PCI 2.0 cards give.

*I* feel this may be the gen where having a high end platform doesn't matter as much, towards the end of PCIe 3.0's life cycle that will probably change a bit. But I think the bandwidth introduced with PCIe 3.0 is going to take awhile for gpus to saturate.
    
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