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Ok after lots and lots of reading, I can't really find any info on the Lucid Virtu... I was considering a P67 board from Asus until I read the horrid reviews like double booting and such. This peaked my interest in the newer chipset...

My question is this: Does Virtu work with every game? Or is it like Creative's old EAX where it only supports SOME games? Does Virtu hurt system stability?
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Current Z68 mobo's all use virtu version 1.1.101 or later.

Anything past 1.0.105 allows you to use a discrete GPU as the native, while virtualizing the discrete graphics. So, long as you have this option enabled, virtu has no affect on games since you're using your discrete GPU as normal.

Even with the onboard video as native, and discrete virtualized, the performance loss was pretty much negligible, but DID require you to white list games, which is an annoyance.

See http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...ng,2938-8.html
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I noticed a pretty big FPS performance loss using mine....
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This is a pdf I found a few weeks ago responding to a similar post.

http://europe.asrock.com/downloadsit...e4/English.pdf

Yes,Yes, I know it is not the ABIT site but if you want the dirt on Lucid Virtu
here it is in pdf.

One thing that caught my eye was you have to disconnect the GPU-Monitor cable from your PCIe card and plug your graphics cable only to the motherboard VGA connector to utilize this technology.

I normally do not like to express personal opinions or make predictions but, Lucid Virtu just screams marketing gimmic and is not a sufficient reason to buy a motherboard. I predict this tech will be somewhat buggy and detrimental for any gamer seeking max FPS. And if you are looking to Virtu for a reduced monthly electric bill you will be disappointed. The difference for a unused PCIe graphics card just plugged in at idle, or when Virtu switches to it for 3d, the savings will be mere pennies.
Edited by Albatross1991 - 7/20/11 at 7:51am
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Virtu isn't for gaming. The point of it is to allow QuickSync (CPU's hardware video encoding) to work even if you have a discrete video card. Intel made the mistake of disabling the IGP completely when a discrete video card was installed. This disabled QuickSync and making it unavaliable on higher-end systems that are more likely to do video encoding in the first place.
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I haven't experimented enough with Virtu to give you too much of a performance review, but I can tell you that for me its primary benefit is allowing more than two monitors. I run my main two displays on my GTX 285, but when it's time to watch on the big screen, I plug in the HDMI into the mainboard's video output, Virtu kicks in, and I have a 3rd screen.

I have also successfully started SC2 and Metro 2033 through the onboard video while virtualizing the discrete graphics, and it works. I didn't run any benchmarks though.


Also regarding the double boot issue, it follows the Z68 boards too, but I discovered mine was caused by the TPU switch being turned on (the on/off switch is backwards than what's shown in the manual). If you set everything to default, make sure EPU and TPU are turned off, and start your overclocking from there, you shouldn't run into the same double boot I ran into.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DuckieHo View Post
Virtu isn't for gaming. The point of it is to allow QuickSync (CPU's hardware video encoding) to work even if you have a discrete video card. Intel made the mistake of disabling the IGP completely when a discrete video card was installed. This disabled QuickSync and making it unavaliable on higher-end systems that are more likely to do video encoding in the first place.
Quote from Lucid's website:

Quote:
Lucid Virtu software is able to assign tasks in real time to the best available graphics resource based on power, performance and features considerations, with no need for additional hardware. If high end graphics power is needed for applications like DirectX 11, high-resolution 3D gaming, the system will assign the job to the discrete GPU. If not, the discrete GPU automatically goes into idle mode, while heat drops, fan speed slows down and GPU utilization goes down to zero, resulting in a green, power-efficient, long-lasting system.
Lucid Virtu is definitely not JUST for accessing QuickSync. It's a highly regarded feature of Virtu though.
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Perhaps he implied that for our purposes (the hardcore gamer/overclocker), the main advantage of Virtu is Intel QuickSync.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by xDezor View Post
Perhaps he implied that for our purposes (the hardcore gamer/overclocker), the main advantage of Virtu is Intel QuickSync.
Yeah, I just want it for QuickSync, since it slaps the heck out of Cuda for transcode tasks.

I was reading that there are 2 ways to connect and use Virtu, one is Virtu-i and the other is Virtu-d.

Virtu-d is all that is supported on the board I'm getting, the Asus z68 deluxe as it has no onboard video connectors. I guess Virtu-d is the best way to connect if your a gamer and it doesn't hinder performance, and the only way to get the "green" power saving features of putting the discrete card at idle is to connect using virtu-i which just means you hook up your monitor to your motherboard directly, but this hinders 3d performance... At least this is what I've read...

Edit (from that PDF that was linked, THANKS!)

3 Hardware installation
3.1 i-Mode
i-Mode provides user with Intel Sandy special features and power saving options when no 3D gaming is used.
To use Lucid VIRTU solution in i-Mode, display must be always connected to Sandy Bridge motherboard video
output.
Note: Display can be also connected to IPG VGA output instead of IPG DVI output.
3.2 d-Mode
d-Mode is provided for demanding 3D gamers to achieve uncompromised 3D performance of discrete GPU
installed in the system. In this mode, Virtu allows user to utilize Intel special features such as trascoding, while
display is connected to discrete GPU.
Note: We recommend you use d-Mode for better 3D performance unless you use Intel Insider feature or the
power saving i-Mode.
To use Lucid VIRTU solution in d-Mode, display must be connected to discrete GPU installed in the system.
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