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Looks like manufacturing constraints will keep it in the 10-11" range on width. That's fine - the target market for this case are people who (for whatever reason) dislike "double wides" or "cube cases". We're not really either one of the those, but the point is taken. For all-out performance, wider cases will win every time.

At almost 30" tall, even 11" should look proportionally "correct". I tend to favor keeping it closer to 11" because that would allow using the back side for tubing as well as cable management between the upper and lower compartments (ala the TX10). That should allow for some really clean builds. It also gives more room to mount HDD/SSD's without using the Flex-Bays.

Nothing is set in stone at this point - still just kicking the tires
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Side panel 5.25 bay space for fan controllers, power reset switch, maybe a bay res, optical drive. Come on, I'm too lazy to move my arm to the front!!!!!
    
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Something that has me a bit concerned: Is a case that's two and a half feet tall before case feet come into play, but not even a full foot wide going to be stable? I would be very cross if my computer fell over.

Now you said this case is going to be the STH10. Is there going to be a ST10 that isn't as deep and a SMH10(/SMH8) and SM10(SM8) that are the same width and depth but not as tall like how you have things now with your current cases?

Also in the vein of the post above: a flex bay mounting that can be mounted on the side (something that just bolts into the same holes the accessory mounts and radiator mounts do) and the option to get a cut out in one of the side panels would be an interesting option. Another thing to think about is that all that space above and below the mobo could be a nice place to put hard drives. I it possible to mount cages to accessory rails (yeah I know you haven't started designing the case, but that doesn't mean I can't start thinking up builds to put inside)?

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Looks like manufacturing constraints will keep it in the 10-11" range on width. That's fine - the target market for this case are people who (for whatever reason) dislike "double wides" or "cube cases". We're not really either one of the those, but the point is taken. For all-out performance, wider cases will win every time.
I already mentioned it before, but how would you feel about making extended sides? You can keep the case in the 10 inch range that you are looking at, but the extra width on extended sides could give enough room to mount radiators behind the motherboard tray, or have two side by side on the top or bottom.
Edited by BirdofPrey - 7/21/11 at 8:39am
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[...]At almost 30" tall, even 11" should look proportionally "correct". I tend to favor keeping it closer to 11" because that would allow using the back side for tubing as well as cable management between the upper and lower compartments (ala the TX10). That should allow for some really clean builds. It also gives more room to mount HDD/SSD's without using the Flex-Bays.
Any extra space on the back-side of the motherboard is a bonus! Many of the current tower-style cases leave so little room on that side that it's often a real hassle to get the panel/door back on w/o it bulging outwards from the cables that are crammed in there. That was the case ::cough:: with my last two cases.
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Any extra space on the back-side of the motherboard is a bonus! Many of the current tower-style cases leave so little room on that side that it's often a real hassle to get the panel/door back on w/o it bulging outwards from the cables that are crammed in there. That was the case ::cough:: with my last two cases.
Have to agree with you here...I have a bulging side door panel.
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Have to agree with you here...I have a bulging side door panel.
That shouldn't be a problem. There will be at least 2" behind the MB.
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Something that has me a bit concerned: Is a case that's two and a half feet tall before case feet come into play, but not even a full foot wide going to be stable? I would be very cross if my computer fell over.

Now you said this case is going to be the STH10. Is there going to be a ST10 that isn't as deep and a SMH10(/SMH8) and SM10(SM8) that are the same width and depth but not as tall like how you have things now with your current cases?

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I already mentioned it before, but how would you feel about making extended sides? You can keep the case in the 10 inch range that you are looking at, but the extra width on extended sides could give enough room to mount radiators behind the motherboard tray, or have two side by side on the top or bottom.
I doubt we'll make extended sides for it. They would need to be pretty big and would likely cause structural problems. The TH10 is designed for rads behind the MB and has (what I consider to be) the necessary clearance to function properly.

Making smaller versions is not likely, but of course we'll listen to our user base. The smaller versions will more likely be built on the Merlin platform.

Towers will always have the potential for stability problems, it just comes with the territory (another reason why the other cases are designed the way they are ) By way of comparison, the LD V8 is approx 8.66" W x 28.35" H. At 11" the STH10 will have a width to height ratio of about 37% which is in line with most tower cases.
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One case that did get popular despite being called "too narrow" was the Antec 1200. I would look at this one aspect of the 1200 that generated complaints and see if you can apply this feedback to your sizing decisions.
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I'm pretty set on the M8, but some sort of accessory that could maybe turn a 5.25 bay into a hot swap port would be something I'd be VERY interested in.
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I'm pretty set on the M8, but some sort of accessory that could maybe turn a 5.25 bay into a hot swap port would be something I'd be VERY interested in.
There are a few aftermarket ones available. Typically they use three 5.25" bays and house 5 drives.

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