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I have the TF3 6950 2GB as well, does flashing work with Atiwinflash (in windows, not dos)? I couldnt unlock the shaders with atiwinflash in windows but it stood at 1408 shaders. Should it work in dosmode?
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Just came by to say thanks to OP. This was the only working guide that I had done. I actually have the Twin frozr II, and can confirm that it worked. (Bought Open box from newegg)..Someone probably tried already, then returned.

Nice, would like to know whether you used w1zzard's guide? cause the TF3 BIOS obv. couldn't have helped. Anyway , kudos to MSI for releasing that guide and then abruptly pulling it offline. As if it wouldn't circulate biggrin.gif
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Hi all especially Razor, what a quality comprehensive guide. I signed up to say a big thank you for the guide and ask for a little help as I've been on this for 2days running and cant find a solution, if anybody could help that would be great.
I've followed the guide as well as I can but everytime I go to boot into the usb it just doesnt seem to work, it spots the kernel and says something along the lines of "FreeDOS is loading/starting" but never gets past that stage (I would go through the setup for the tenth time but I'm formatting the mem stick with another program as I type for another go)
This is what I've done step by step if you can point out where I'm getting it all wrong I'd be most appreciative although I think I've tried every possibility now. Im using 64bit 7 Ultimate and its a frozr 3 6950
- Backed up the original BIOS
- Formatted using NtfsFloppySetup
- Placed the 3 files in BIOS.FLASH.FILES.HERE in to the root (Have also placed the folder in there aswell to no avail)
- Booted up and nothing but "FreeDOS is starting"
Variations I've tried as I dont really know what I'm doing in regards to flashing
- using 3 other bootable dos formatters (4th working away now)
- placing the files dos1 and DOS FILES in DOS.FILES.HERE into the bootable pendrive (each one and both at same time, also placed the files from inside them to root and still nothing)
- checked ebay to quit the misery and just buy another damn 6950!
I've set the BIOS to read Removable Media 1st then HDD 2nd. I dont know what I'm missing and my brain is becoming frazzled as this stuff seems so simple and I dont know where I've made the mistake frown.gif
Any helps looked at an appreciated!
Thanks, been offline, life just gets you smile.gif

Anyway , the pen drive may be the problem . Some of my Sandisks just don't boot well, esp USB win7 setups. Maybe this DOS is playing finicky with the pen drives it wants to work on ??
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I had the same issue, but i used google smile.gif. It appears you have to format as NTFS, if it's a flash drive.
If this works, lol, I shall give you credit smile.gif OP style!
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Originally Posted by Faithh View Post

I have the TF3 6950 2GB as well, does flashing work with Atiwinflash (in windows, not dos)? I couldnt unlock the shaders with atiwinflash in windows but it stood at 1408 shaders. Should it work in dosmode?
Atiwinflash = bad idea. Read the first post. Dos flash is a better and should have been your only option.You do NOT want process handles interfering .. simple as that. There's too much that can go wrong. But now that it didn't work , yeah try the DOS mode OFC tongue.gif Tell us how it went!
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I assume you know it worked if you have 1536 shaders showing in GPU-Z?

Just tried this on two cards, and if that's the case, it worked on both to my surprise.
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Atiwinflash = bad idea. Read the first post. Dos flash is a better and should have been your only option.You do NOT want process handles interfering .. simple as that. There's too much that can go wrong. But now that it didn't work , yeah try the DOS mode OFC tongue.gif Tell us how it went!

Tried under dosmode as well, the card remained @ 1408 shaders. I could go higher OC'ing, but I dont see the point of it anymore in CF-setup. Definitly laser-cutted. But does anyone have the silent profile bios? Preferably at 1408 shaders..
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I have never paid much attention to the factory fan profile or the moded bios fan profile...I have always used afterburner to adjust fan speeds using user defined fan settings.
 
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this is the perfect thread for my question... I havent been able to get an answer from anyone on this yet...

I have a 6950 2gb MSI ref... unlocked the shaders keeping my original bios... Now my question is... if im adding +20% powertune, and disabled the ULPS, and in afterburner took off powerplay by choosing "2" in the unofficial oc mode... is it still "safe" to say oc to 920/1350/1.18v ??? As long as my temps are ok will I be fine? Im getting 65c vcore full load and 70-73c on the vram... Im just worried because it seemed pretty stable at 1.185v and i kept the clock the same and bumped up .005v to 1.19v and boom first run in 3dmark11 BIG CRASH... I'm worried to underpower the card by keeping power tune @+0%
but also worried with +20% and ULPS + Powerplay turned off... I just want a "safe" setting around 900-920 ... again if my temps are ok do I need not to worry about the card / ram pulling too many watts?

Please help me here, I have posted on 5+ different sites and haven't received a single reply... Im kinda new to OC GPUS but comfortable OC PCs so Im not total Noob but because I did the shader unlock and it requiring some more power, Im kinda thrown for a loop here...I know the upper "safe/ok" volts is around 1.2v not much more then 1.25... I haven't gone further then 1.19v just to stay clear but im wondering if the Clock+1.18v-2.0v + Powertune @ +20%, + disabling both ULPS and PowerPlay is wacking the card with too much power draw... Again temps are fine but I don't know how over watt-ing a card effects it...

I would be so appreciative for some direction here... I dont want to turn all the caps back on and go to 870 on stock volts... I think Im seeing an artifact here or there at the 920/1.18v setting but am afraid with all these factors to push into 1.2v until Im sure things aren't Adding up on Each other where i read 1.2 - 1.25v is "ok" but with my config it turns out not to be... Thanks for any reply.
Edited by Likewise - 8/2/12 at 7:17pm
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stock clocks idle temp (Click to show)
this is with stock settings 850/1300 1.14v
idle temps w/ oc'd AB settings (Click to show)
this is with gaming settings 950/1400 1.25 +10mv on mem and aux
OC settings Prime95 Kombuster in Fullscreen (Click to show)
this is with gaming settings 950/1400 1.25 +10mv on mem and aux
HWInfo64(shows shader temps) w/ prime95 Kombuster GPU oc'd (Click to show)
this is with gaming settings 950/1400 1.25 +10mv on mem and aux

My suggestion from personal experience is that I have three settings for my TF3 (reference cards will run hotter by 20% according to MSI)
1. stock for everything except gaming or benchmarking
2. Gaming settings
3.Benchmarking settings...this requires the use of higher core voltage and powertune at +20

The pictures show various temps and most where taken with 75 f room temps, but i had a different processor for the hwmonitor64 readings. You can use these as a reference of what the 6950 can do. I run core voltage anywhere from 1.14 to 1.27, and my temps usually stay in the 60's at 50% fan speed well gaming on OC'ed settings, granted the TF3 has the best cooler around, so yours will be higher at these clocks/volts. I always try to keep the cards below 80 c, and some of my older cards would even run up in the 90's (5750 yeah old school). I have been running these settings for well over a year know with no issues.

You will find something interesting when looking at the shader temps in the HWmonitor64 shot. One card has unlocked shaders, the other is laser cut from the factory it still has 1408. The temperature change is very noticeable. At some point i plan to replace the factory thermal paste to help with that temp.

Feel free to ask questions and definitely hit up the 6900 thread: http://www.overclock.net/ati/892583-amd-69xx-owners-club.html
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Does this look correct? In this photo I am flashing back from the R6950PEX bios to my gpu-z backup because my shaders failed to unlock, but I noticed that when I flash the 'new' and 'old' are the same for both bios. Shouldn't something change? Flashing R6950PEX results in the same thing, new and old are identical. If this is working as intended I guess I got a laser cut card, no biggy.
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hi guys i have a radeon 6950 twin frozr II but it doesnt have bios switch, can i unlocked it?

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