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Plasma is the best choice. LED is still and LCD and hence slower refresh rates etc.. Better viewing angles with plasma and better colors as well.

Really hard to compare specs between LCD and plasma due to the tech being so different.

LCD's and plasmas now have about the same life expectancy(about 100,000 hrs) as long as you stick with a quality brand IE: Panasonic, LG, or Samsung.
Plasmas do run a bit warmer but not by much

And another good ppoint to bring up is the cost difference between LCD(LED) and Plasma...plasmas are LESS EXPENSIVE. for Plasma

Side note: all 720P TV's will do 1080i
Edited by twisted5446 - 7/19/11 at 7:40pm
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Originally Posted by Zakel2 View Post
Hey I've been looking around as much as I can to get ideas for HDTVS. I want to stick around as close to $600 as possible and no more than $700.

I was set on LCD's because there was a possibility that I would hook up my sig rig and play a few games on it. But - I want a 46" tv and I can't get a 1080 46" lcd in my price range.

I've also heard that plasma has much higher picture quality over lcds and I will mostly be playing movies off of my computer to the tv, along with watching cable programs.

So if I decide to go with plasma for more inches/dollar and I wont be gaming on it - is it safe to go 720p? There aren't any tv shows or movies made for 1080p are there?


tl;dr - If I'm playing movies off my computer will 720p plasma be the greatest picture quality and size for my money?
As others have stated you should get a 1080P set at this point in time. The image quality is great on plasma's, and I haven't really had any issues with long term image retention / burn-in. Also, as you have noticed you can get some great deals on bigger plasma screens. You should be able to find a 50in, 1080P screen for under $900.

Now the only cons I have found:

1. Heat. If you have cold days where you live then this could be a plus, but down here in the south it's just more work for the AC.

2. Power Consumption. The new plasma TV's have gotten a lot better, but they still use more power then an LCD of the same size.

3. Weight. Plasma TV's weigh a lot more then LCD's. The screen is glass instead of plastic after all. If you mount a TV to the wall wrong a plasma TV will be much more likely to rip out and hit the ground.

4. Glare. Because the screen is glass it does reflect light more then a non-glossy LCD panel does. The new plasma TV's have anti-glare coatings, but you will still get some glare.

5. Glass screen. Due to it being made of glass it can crack if it is hit, dropped, or exposed to extreme heat. On the flip side it is more resilient against punctures then an LCD. (Ex. little kid with a pencil stabbing the screen) You also shouldn't lay the TV down on its side. This is due to the weight of the glass pressing down on the internal components inside.

A few more things to think of:

1. Plasma doesn't have the large following that LCD does. At some point Plasma TV's will not be made. At this point the electronic manufactures are making a heck of a lot more LCD TV's then Plasma's. This is due to better LCD panels, cheaper production costs, and advances made in LCD panel image quality.

2. Make sure you adjust your new plasma tv. Most manufactures send out the TV in torch mode. This is fine for the showroom, but all it is doing at your house is costing you more more in electricity, burning your eyes out, and shortening the lifespan of the panel.

3. Burn it in before doing anything static on it. The first few hundred hours of a panels life are when burn-in is most prevalent. Before doing anything static on it (computer usage, gaming, etc.) break it in by running a moving image on it. Some people use color DVD's, but my favorite way is to just watch a lot of full screen movies, and television on it. (Just stay off of CNN, Fox, etc due to the large static bars)

4. 3D plasma TV's are cheaper then 3D LCD TV's. They also have a much higher refresh rate then LCD's. This is great if you watch a lot of sports, or fast paced games.

I personally own a 50" plasma, and do enjoy it. If you can find a great deal on a plasma I would go for it as long as you keep those points in mind. Will my next TV be a plasma? Depends. If LCD technology gets the image quality up to that of a plasma I might switch over to alleviate some of those issues inherent to plasma TV's. However, at this point in time plasma is the best cost / image / size technology out there today.

IMO Panasonic makes some of the best plasma TV's out there. However, I am part of that Panasonic black level defect. I am lucky that my set isn't affected to badly, but I do notice that the black levels are a little lower. Still, I wouldn't hesitate to buy another Panasonic TV.

This turned into a huge wall of text, but I know how important a large purchase like this is. Do as much research as you can on a specific TV model before you buy it. Every manufacture's TV's are different. Heck, even some of the models out there use different panels, but they are all under the same name.
Edited by AtomicFrost - 7/19/11 at 8:13pm
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post #13 of 20
I recently purchased a Samsung PN59D550 (59 inch Plasma). I went for plasma because of the better color, and blacks in dark environments. That's what it really comes down to: if you use the display in a dark environment, the Plasma looks amazing while the LCD has backlight bleed in from the edges. In daytime however, Plasmas suffer from glare while the backlight bleed issue is unnoticeable for LCDs.

Btw, in dark environments, even the $3,000+ LED LCD TVs suffer from backlight bleed on the corners.
     
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post #14 of 20
3d led tvs are in no question best and gaming on it is like WOW
post #15 of 20
Thread Starter 
Well - this tv will be for my bedroom and it is a pretty decent sized room, I can't remember the measurements but it is pretty big for a bedroom.

So either I get a 42" lcd and a entry level 5.1 system or a 46" plasma and possibly an entry level 5.1 system down the road.
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Where do you live? Call the nearest Frys Electronics TODAY and look for the LG 47LK520, 1080p, 120Hz, likely IPS.. 599.99 dollars USD = 46.9 inches.

Brand new..

Amazon sells it for 760, BB sells it for 799.

Goodluck..

If I were to get a Plasma ATM, on a budget, a Panasonic 46" ST30 (semi successor to kuro line ups?) may be the BEST bang/buck out there with current MSRPs.
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Plasma TVs are there as well as high quality CRT televisions virtually only in 16:9 format. Both camps defending their technologies with different arguments against each other over the technology. The discussion is fueled by the fact that some manufacturers consistently on only one technology set - for example, Sharp in LCD technology - and so the question of technology is also a matter of survival.
The Life is one of the most commonly performed in the field selling points of LCD-seller, yet this one, that can confuse the buyer properly sloped. There's only the math a bit. For plasma TVs generally rated life of 30,000 hours ( Pioneer and NEC specify already 60,000 hours) means the visibility at a theoretical daily run time of 8 hours a day, 7 days a week for about 10 years, the luminosity of the plasma cells darker

The plasma panel is basically composed of two superimposed glass sheets, between which is included for each picture element (pixel), a cell filled with xenon gas.
Depending on the manufacturer of different phosphorus comes in different mixes. Accordingly, the color characteristics are different depending on manufacturer. So it is that actually owns its own plasma panels each characteristic color space.

While the plasma TV, an electric pulse per pixel is sufficient, you need the LCD panel whose number, at least one of brightness and up to three to enable the sub-pixel in the color filter layer. This makes the response times slower than the pixels in plasma technology and produces the well-known in fast movements Ghosting. The color representation, ie the Color space is in the TFT technology, not as naturally be represented as the plasma TV. A further drawback of LCD is the small size. For a long time was 32 ​​inches (82 cm) and 37 inches (94 cm) diagonal, the limit of production is technically feasible. In the meantime (as of February 2007) there is a 46 inch ( Sharp LC-46 XD1E ) or 52 inches ( Sharp LC-52 XD1E ) already LDC TVs at the level of the popular sizes of Plasma TVs are. Even the still very high cost of large LCD TVs come gradually more and more down to the level of plasma TVs.

LCds use less power but not as big as claimed. nother advantage is the non-existent risk of permanent burn-in principle and longer life with a constant luminosity.

One who puts an emphasis on the best picture quality and more than 36 inches image size needed, I recommend a plasma TV. But the viewer is Kritschen way: even in such cases, the overall image quality still can not match the one tube television. Under 36 inch LCD basically comes into play. Here is all the more that image quality is not that of a CRT television reaches - and significantly.
post #18 of 20
have my VIZIO 32" 720P plazma for over 4years and no problems at all with it. Sure sometimes the images get burned onto the screen but it has a built in t screen cleaning feature that makes it all better and like new
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lex Luger View Post
plasma are the best but have durability concerns, and I wouldnt buy something that wasnt 1080p myself unless it was under 32 inches
^ My mom, uncle and aunt bought 3 plasma TVs around the same week. Luckily they bought 3 year warranty plan from Fry s. They all broke withing the last month of that 3 year extra warranty.

They bought them almost 4 years ago and some people say they last longer now. But the guy that fixed my mom's TV at Fry's told her to not ever buy a Plasma TV because they get so many to fix.

edit: oh btw I just saw TD that has an LG I think? 55" LCD 1080p (re-certified though ) for $699.
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post #20 of 20
Our 52" Phillips plasma just bit the dust. It had ran like a champ for about 7 years(bought it when they first came out). Since then, we switched to a 42" Hitachi lcd with led backlighting. I really liked the Phillips, but the Hitachi does look mighty fine picture quality wise.
    
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