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i never used any other drive than those up until i got my SSD. if you delve into the WEI datastore the ST3500418AS actually pulls a score of 6.7 (windows only limits it to 5.9 because it isnt an SSD)
mechanical drives can get over a 5.9, there is no artificial limit there. most get a 5.9 because they all suck in the same area, anything with random/reads writes and latency
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I used to use only seagate drives as the POS company I used to work for used them and they had been rock solid. I built my PC and several friend's pc's with the 7200.11 and 7200.12 series hard drives and I have been severely disappoint with the quality of the hard drive. I used to have 2 500gig 7200.11 drives running in raid 0. I had to RMA both original drives within the first year due to mechanical failures. The replacement drives I have had to RMA twice over due to mechanical failures (not firmware failures). Also 4 of my friends that I had built PC's for with the 7200.11 and 7200.12 have had to RMA their drives within the first year - 1.5 years.

Their Customer Service/RMA process is still awesome. But I have quit recommending them for builds as their failure rate has been very high the last several years. I have had my WD in my sig rig for over a year without any issues and have done several builds with Samsung Spinpoint F3's and WD Blacks and they both have been rock solid.
post #13 of 34
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So I guess my good choice would be 2x WD Caviar Black 500... Seagate and failure are used together way too much nowadays

Each disk being almost 2x pricier than the Seagate kills all my oportunities to get an SSD.

Or is a Crucial drive (100~€) worth it for JUST installing OS and some programs on it? Write cycles are still a problem nowadays?
post #14 of 34
SSDs have proved themselves to be immensely faster for OSes and some programs - and then use hard drives as storage capacity. IMHO there limited space will become an issue before they pack up - and with TRIM they no longer get slower with subsequent writes as well.
Edited by CourageD - 7/20/11 at 12:37pm
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SSDs have proved themselves to be immensely faster for OSes and some programs - and then use hard drives as storage capacity. IMHO there limited space will become an issue before they pack up - and with TRIM they no longer get slower with subsequent writes as well.
So I should go for it, right?

My main concern is if they get broken with time...
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Reckon the capacity will become an issue before any break down does. Also pretty sure people wouldn't spend the money they do on them if they did So my opinion is go for it, think it'll provide far more of a performance boost than a RAID mechanical HDD setup.
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post #17 of 34
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So I should go for it, right?

My main concern is if they get broken with time...
and mechanical drives last forever

at least SSD's have a more predictible failure rate

also, there are plenty of SSD's that will last a long time.

my previous X25-E's were wearing on a pace to out live me lol
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post #18 of 34
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Seagate has no huge glaring firmware issues this generation - but they're still regarded as the least reliable HDD manufacturer.
Says who?

There are no known issues with the 7200.12 drives. Hell, after the firmware fiasco, fixed 7200.11 I have own have proven to be pretty reliable. That firmware bug has given Seagate way too much bad press for things that do happen.

Whatever you do, steer clear of the WD Greens ending in EARS. We have changed truckload of those under warranty at work.

Like was said previously, the Hitachi drives and Samsung's F3 have good track records, at a pretty good price. However, Samsung's getting out of the HDD business, so you might encounter some issues with RMAs and such.

Hard drives don't pay taxes, but they do still have to face death. Never trust a hard drive, also have one or more backup. Go for what is cheapest for you, deal with broken drives as it happens. Life's too short to be stressing out about your data.
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So I guess my good choice would be 2x WD Caviar Black 500... Seagate and failure are used together way too much nowadays
Negative. WD Black 500GB seems to be a problematic model. Whenever I hear of a Black failure (not often), it's a 500GB one.

Go for a larger one. 640GB seems to be fine. 750GB and 1TB should also be fine.

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Each disk being almost 2x pricier than the Seagate kills all my oportunities to get an SSD.
2x F3 1TB RAID is also an option if you can find the drives cheap.

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Or is a Crucial drive (100~€) worth it for JUST installing OS and some programs on it? Write cycles are still a problem nowadays?
C300/M4 seems to have fine reliability.

Whether an SSD is worth it varies from person to person. Most people say yes.
     
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post #20 of 34
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I'd just hunt around for a deal on a Samsung F3 1TB or WD Black 1TB. It's worth it. Check the online deals section every day for a week and you'll find your new drive.

Seagate has no huge glaring firmware issues this generation - but they're still regarded as the least reliable HDD manufacturer.
This. F3 spinpoint for performance/price, and caviar black for perfomance/reliability.

Also, caviar blues really arent slow. They are almost just as fast as the blacks, but louder and not as good of warranty. Thats the only major difference. that and the blacks have that "dual processor" feature.
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