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my previous X25-E's were wearing on a pace to out live me lol
Something other than the NAND would fail well before that. The PCB isn't just a controller with NAND - there's power regulation - resistors and capacitors and stuff.

I haven't looked inside an SSD recently, but their lifespan is not hundreds of years. No electronics have a lifespan like that...

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Says who?
General consensus. There's tons of people with really bad experiences with Seagate drives:

http://www.overclock.net/hard-drives...g-seagate.html

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Originally Posted by max302 View Post
There are no known issues with the 7200.12 drives. Hell, after the firmware fiasco, fixed 7200.11 I have own have proven to be pretty reliable. That firmware bug has given Seagate way too much bad press for things that do happen.
Heck, there's one person in this thread that bought about eight to ten Seagate drives, and 100% of them failed within a few years...

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I used to use only seagate drives as the POS company I used to work for used them and they had been rock solid. I built my PC and several friend's pc's with the 7200.11 and 7200.12 series hard drives and I have been severely disappoint with the quality of the hard drive. I used to have 2 500gig 7200.11 drives running in raid 0. I had to RMA both original drives within the first year due to mechanical failures. The replacement drives I have had to RMA twice over due to mechanical failures (not firmware failures). Also 4 of my friends that I had built PC's for with the 7200.11 and 7200.12 have had to RMA their drives within the first year - 1.5 years.
Different rigs, so it's not a bad PSU killing them.


I've got a similar story. Enough Seagate drives died in rapid succession to kill my RAID 0+1 array. Would've killed a RAID5 array too. Crazy!


These stories are as bad as your WD##EARS story. (which I also believe)

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Whatever you do, steer clear of the WD Greens ending in EARS. We have changed truckload of those under warranty at work.
     
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Just noticed that in many spanish stores, the 7200.12 drives are labeled as "High RMA", but now you say that 500GB Blacks too... there's no 640 nor 750 on most spanish stores, just the 1TB. And I could RAID them if so lol.

I'd go for the Crucial M4... it's a good choice, no? (64GB).

On many Nvidia Chipsets RAID is problematic, but I can just do a backup before I shut off the PC on an external drive and done, meh.
post #23 of 34
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Just noticed that in many spanish stores, the 7200.12 drives are labeled as "High RMA", but now you say that 500GB Blacks too... there's no 640 nor 750 on most spanish stores, just the 1TB. And I could RAID them if so lol.
No, they're not "High RMA" like Seagates.

It's possible that they're just really popular. I was just pointing out that whenever I hear of a Black dying (which again, is really really rare) it's a 500GB model.

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I'd go for the Crucial M4... it's a good choice, no? (64GB).
It's a great choice.

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On many Nvidia Chipsets RAID is problematic, but I can just do a backup before I shut off the PC on an external drive and done, meh.


Daily backups are invaluable.
     
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I have one and I put one in my sisters computer as well, no problems at all. Both are the 500GB versions.
    
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No, they're not "High RMA" like Seagates.

It's possible that they're just really popular. I was just pointing out that whenever I hear of a Black dying (which again, is really really rare) it's a 500GB model.


It's a great choice.




Daily backups are invaluable.
Good So I guess that 1TB Black + M4...

Is the Black 1TB worth RAID'ing? I won't get to use all 2TB of them, so it'd be just for the speed... and considering they'll pretty much be a "database"... is it worth it? (Worth the extra value and risk lol)
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HDD start to go bad if you move you computer too much or you take them out from case to case. I had my 7200.11 for 3 years and it just broke cause my friends drooped it. Also using 1 x 7200.12 for programs and SSD for Windows and i have had it since launch and no problems.
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I've had 2 500GBs fail in 3 years... Also a 7200.11 fail within 2 years
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Good So I guess that 1TB Black + M4...

Is the Black 1TB worth RAID'ing? I won't get to use all 2TB of them, so it'd be just for the speed... and considering they'll pretty much be a "database"... is it worth it? (Worth the extra value and risk lol)
That's up to you. Depends how much you want to spend.

Tons of people here love RAID.
     
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post #29 of 34
Got three 7200.12's, no issues ever.

RAID, it's something I've tried for a couple years and wouldn't do again.
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I still have a 7200.11 (updated firmware) that works. *knock on wood*
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