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AT&T DSL here lol I get MAYBE 635kbps/333kbps with a 116ping at best here. Sad part is that roadrunner is avalible in my area but parents dont see why we need to upgrade to faster internet. they just see is as more expensive. I have 2 PCs, 2 laptops and my phone that I hook up to wifi. not to menetion my sisters laptop and my bothers desktop and their ipods, yah we NEED more bandwidth lol
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Originally Posted by Tiger S. View Post
Mine on at&t is the same speed. He is just pissed cause the dsl isn't fast enough to catch non netflicks people in the data caps.
lmao who said I was pissed? 6mbps is plenty for Steam.
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Originally Posted by Nemesis158 View Post
If he claims it's so obsolete then why can he not justify laying new fiber? ask him that after he says this and he'll pull a 180 on you.......
They really don't need to lay any more fiber in the ground. There's a million miles worth of fiber already buried in the USA but they're refusing to use it.
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I get 40 down/10 up on my DSL I'm pretty happy with it... If I wanted to I could spend more and get 100 down
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lmao who said I was pissed? 6mbps is plenty for Steam.
I was talking about the ceo of At&t.
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Originally Posted by JeremyFr View Post
Comcast does not offer FTTH only Hybrid Fiber/Coax (simply translated fiber to a neighborhood node cable to your home.) However with DOCSIS 3.0 now in use they can offer FTTH speeds.
not really.

sure, they're trialing gigabit docsis 3, and it's capable of like 4 gigabit in lab tests, but that's downstream, not upstream. true FTTH tends to be more symmetrical, or at the least be provisioned for much higher uploads. see EPB's plans - 30/30, 50/50, 100/100. even Verizon's plans tend to have higher upstream (ignoring the 15/5 plan)

sure, i'm sure Comcast could provision more for downstream, but cable networks tend to be good at sending data one way - sending it back up isn't something they do so well.

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That's my ADSL.

Sounds like you guys in the states only have 1.5mbps dsl.
some people. ie, my house, and others

here, u-verse's max is 24/3 i think (that's a form of VDSL). sure, it's better than 1.5 or the max for at&t's plain DSL, but the contention is it's not as fast as cable, and is priced the same.

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Originally Posted by TitaniumClocker View Post
AT&T U-verse uses one out of two possible setups for most customers:

1. Fiber to Node/VRAD + VDSL2 from node to modem

2. Fiber to premise, and at best its support is abysmal last time I worked there. Its not any faster than their VDSL2 service.

possible option in rare cases, its still in field test: Bonded pair VDSL2 allowing for double the range (8k feet loop length instead of ~3500)


Either way, U-Verse services range from 3.0Mbps/768k to 24/3 - both of which are lackluster.
since when and where? not heard of this.

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I don't think DSL is "obsolete" in terms of what the average schlump wants/needs in their home. While the dependence on faster and faster broadband is increasing, your average 6mbps down 3mbps up connection from AT&T is still plenty if you're not downloading games on Steam all the time. For average things like media streaming, it's still fine and dandy, which is, I'd bet, what the "average" user desires. Which is also probably why AT&T never felt the obligation to improve the infrastructure.

I really hate AT&T so much...
me too man.

really it is sufficient. it was great when capless. but now, when capped, it just doesn't make sense - in my circumstances at least (higher cap, same price after promotions or additional 100GB overage, faster, and no billing issues). the only thing it had was reliability.
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Imagine attempting to download a 10GB game off steam @ 170KBPS maximum, now you know my anger at the US ISPs as a whole. its not just AT&T, its all of them (though Qwest/Centurylink merger is suppose to change some things around where i live)
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AT&T DSL here lol I get MAYBE 635kbps/333kbps with a 116ping at best here. Sad part is that roadrunner is avalible in my area but parents dont see why we need to upgrade to faster internet. they just see is as more expensive. I have 2 PCs, 2 laptops and my phone that I hook up to wifi. not to menetion my sisters laptop and my bothers desktop and their ipods, yah we NEED more bandwidth lol
Start downloading over 150GB/mo and then they'll get a warning that you're over the data cap for DSL. You get 2 warnings before they start charging you extra per GB. Then switch over to Cable. Not sure if Time Warner charges extra for going over data caps like AT&T or not. Comcast doesn't. You could always get the business line which is unlimited transfer.
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^" Imagine attempting to download a 10GB game off steam @ 170KBPS maximum, now you know my anger at the US ISPs as a whole. its not just AT&T, its all of them (though Qwest/Centurylink merger is suppose to change some things around where i live) "
+1 Yeah,they always say one is faster than the other.What they don't tell you is your actual user speeds will basically be determined by how many users are on the same system.So you can get fast DSL service,but once they max the nodes or whatever it will be slow-and they will.Same goes for cable.It's all horse dung.
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I can get either cable, U-verse (I think it's just plain ol' DSL), or WiMAX. Out of those, cable is much faster compared to those in my local area. I don't believe what he says anyway when his company is about to buy out T-Mobile with their inferior services.
I *think* WiMax is faster if your in the right area for it.
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