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But the 320M was standard in the old mini and if I got Linux on that thing I would have the best quality video output possible because I'd be using VDPAU through MPlayer.
The standard Mac Mini was a $100 more expensive though, so it only costs $100 more to get the high end model than it would have for the low end last generation model and you get a GPU twice as good.

I'm not familiar with VDPAU or MPlayer, would not the 6630M 256MB be better though? Or is it a NVidia thing?
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That's true but the second generation one did not. Technically it gained back a feature it had lost before. That was one of the biggest gripes about the second version for many people and thankfully Apple listened. Still you have to admit the second generation MacBook Air made huge improvements over the first one. It got an SSD as standard fixing the 1.8" HDD performance issues, more practical wedge shaped design, and less CPU throttling therefore giving increased performance even though it still had a Core 2 Duo. Plus they substantially lowered the price of entry to $999 with the 11.6" model instead of $1699 for the original Air.
And this is what keeps me interested in an apple product.

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It would benefit the customer best!

The PC vs. Mac debate has changed since Bootcamp has been introduced. I think a lot of people who were formerly PC-only (who are willing to spend) like the combination of Windows OS + Apple customer service. Not to mention they get to try out OSX. I used to be pretty anti-Macbook, but the Air seems pretty awesome
It would also benefit Apple, selling their OS to system builders would open up another market.

I am seriously considering an Air myself. Especially considering the recent "improvements".
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The MacBook Pro comes to $2949 without the SSD which shouldn't be there as it isn't a fair comparison. For some of the rest of the price difference? Build quality, battery life, etc.

And, the Alienware isn't in the same category as the MacBook Pro, it's a gaming laptop. It'll most definitely beat the 6750M in the GPU department, but it'll just fail hard in terms of battery life (as gaming laptops do), etc.
What's with this build quality bs?

Where's the proof?

Alienware and Dell make great products.


Remember Apple's iPhone reception problem?

Yup...so much for "build quality."

Please.

Like 1 poster said on here, when Apple makes Laptops that are <$600, then I will care.
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What's with this build quality bs?

Where's the proof?

Alienware and Dell make great products.
Let's see: IPS displays, unibody aluminum cases, etc.
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Remember Apple's iPhone reception problem?

Yup...so much for "build quality."

Please.

Like 1 poster said on here, when Apple makes Laptops that are <$600, then I will care.
Aside from the fact that they're completely different products, there's nothing wrong with the iPhone 4. The whole reception problem was just rubbish and hype mixed together -- I said it back then and I say it now.

The fact of the matter is if the iPhone 4 couldn't call, it would've been returned by every single customer -- and that, is indisputable.
Edited by steelbom - 7/26/11 at 2:57am
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I love how back-lit keyboards fall into the same sentence as CPU.
Edited by NastyFish - 7/25/11 at 11:04pm
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My post was made about the sad majority of Mac users that exist. If the shoe fits, wear it. Otherwise don't give flak to another Mac user.

Their build quality is no better than any mass produced system available to users. Like I said, you can definitely build your own for cheaper and have the same "Quality" macs do. It is in no way flawless. It's funny how people seem to forget about the screw ups mac made...

Again I enjoy the Macbook airs tho.. I sure as hell can't build something that thin or portable, and I think that is a definite reason to buy. Just a shame that the majority of work I do is on Windows or Linux.



I don't hate Mac.. I hate when people hold a mass manufacturer is such high regard when they essentially rip off their end users with overpriced hardware available elsewhere for half the price.



It's based off Unix... So in essence you can do the same thing with Linux/Unix. Just some food for thought.....In the end.. if it runs so efficiently, why not put the higher end components in it so you can enjoy the performance increase of utilizing a supposedly "optimized" operating system? Wouldn't this make applications decimate other systems since the OS is less process intensive? Better yet, why are they selling products with lower performance for the price of the higher performance products? Just some more food for thought.

Mac is just another brand. There is nothing "Better" about them. They have their screw ups just like any other brand... what irritates me is how people hold Apple on a pedalstool like they're a God or something... thing is.. they aren't any better than the majority of large corporations out there. Their OS is the only thing they have going for them... Essentially the parts in your supposedly "better built" mac is the same exact crap that's in my "crappy built" Dell.


Again. I'm not a Mac hater. I used and worked on iMacs... iBooks and I love Macbook Airs... I just want to set people straight.
build me a macbook air, i'll pay u 90% of retail.
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build me a macbook air, i'll pay u 90% of retail.
Apparently you didn't read my post all the way through.

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Again I enjoy the Macbook airs tho.. I sure as hell can't build something that thin or portable, and I think that is a definite reason to buy. Just a shame that the majority of work I do is on Windows or Linux.
Might help a little


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Let's see: IPS displays, unibody aluminum cases, etc.
Leaky water cooling systems, faulty solder points...

Sure sounds like build quality there

My point, they are a mass manufacturer.. their product is just as good a high end PC. There is no "better" about it.

Get a Mac on the basis of your needs. Not on the hype... build quality my ass.
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What's with this build quality bs?

Where's the proof?

Alienware and Dell make great products.


Remember Apple's iPhone reception problem?

Yup...so much for "build quality."

Please.
So what you are implying is that Dell never made anything with bad build quality? And the iPhone 4 is one product out of how many?
    
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Leaky water cooling systems, faulty solder points...

Sure sounds like build quality there

My point, they are a mass manufacturer.. their product is just as good a high end PC. There is no "better" about it.

Get a Mac on the basis of your needs. Not on the hype... build quality my ass.
That was a fair while ago and every manufacturer has some issues sooner or later, but tell me... do you really believe the case on an Alienware or a Dell is equal to that of the MacBook Pro? Not aesthetically, but in terms of quality. I don't know about you, but I consider unibody aluminum to be better quality than plastic. Oh, and to correct myself, MacBook Pro's don't have IPS displays.
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That was a fair while ago and every manufacturer has some issues sooner or later, but tell me... do you really believe the case on an Alienware or a Dell is equal to that of the MacBook Pro? Not aesthetically, but in terms of quality. I don't know about you, but I consider unibody aluminum to be better quality than plastic. Oh, and to correct myself, MacBook Pro's don't have IPS displays.
There's a difference in "Build Quality" and "Aesthetics"

Build quality implies that it is built better than others.

Aesthetics implies that it is more pleasing than others.

I'll be quite frank, I love how the Air is designed and feels. But my point is, that the points everyone is making for macs are all based on opinion rather than facts. When it comes down to it, the same components in your mac (besides the case) are the same as in other PC's. And their failure rate is equal to that of most "quality" PC systems. So to say macs have a better "Build Quality" is really...honestly... wrong. It's the aesthetically pleasing design that draws you to it. When something is made completely out of metal... something has to give.. this means that everything inside the macbook is going to be more liable to shock damage. Thankfully they foresaw one of the largest problems pertaining to the Hard Disk. But this isn't to say that those flash disks and the display aren't liable to damage due to shock. They are noticeably less affected.. but not shock proof. Plastics give leeway, and flexibility to shrug off damage. These days however the plastics being utilized are cheaper and lower quality, however if you were to look at a Lenovo Thinkpad or a quality Dell laptop (their consumer lines tend to be lower quality...) the plastics are durable and don't have to be "ugly". The Latitude D600 was a testament to durability. but now I'm rambling.

So to answer your question. Yes. Unbiased honest answer Yes. Sure brushed aluminum feels great... it feels sturdy.. and it makes you feel like you have a real quality product. But when it comes down to it.. you have the exact same thing that the neighbor next door has.. and it cost you twice as much. Except you got a neato Mac sticker.
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