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He could be stupid and motivated.
Hahaha.

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The Mona Lisa is free to view after admission, but that doesn't mean it's a smart idea to break into the Louvre to take it... hey since it's free to view right??
The difference being that he has a very clear and stated reason for his actions. I think it was a bad idea for himself, but his reason behind it is something I can sympathize with.
    
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Sure, and I can agree with that, the reason makes sense (to a degree).

Open internet and information is something that's important to me.

I do, however, think it's a bit naive to think that everything on the internet would be free and open to everyone. I also think it's naive to assume that you can change that completely; people need money to live, and like to live well.

This is another reason why I think that open source communities are so cool and special. Unfortunately, I've never gotten my code-writing ability to a point where I can actually contribute yet, but I'm there offering feedback and testing assistance where I can.

This is also why I'm so afraid of ISP's getting control of our content. Could you imagine if a commercial developer paid ISP's to block community developed sites?

Even though I feel strongly about this, I would never hack into their network to get what I want. Not only would that only be a temporary and poor solution, it would also make my cause look like the "bad guys."

Unfortunately, we have to work with our governments to make sure that all of the internet stays open to everyone. If we can show that the people that want this aren't barbaric hackers, but normal civil users, perhaps the government will see it from our side.

Of course, this tangent is only my $0.02.
Edited by SectorNine50 - 7/20/11 at 10:30am
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post #13 of 24
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I do, however, think it's a bit naive to think that everything on the internet would be free and open to everyone. I also think it's naive to assume that you can change that completely; people need money to live, and like to live well.
From JSTOR, specifically regarding this incident:
http://about.jstor.org/news-events/n...-criminal-case

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Our mission at JSTOR is supporting scholarly work and access to knowledge around the world. Faculty, teachers, and students at more than 7,000 institutions in 153 countries rely upon us for affordable and in some cases free access to content on JSTOR. Since our founding in 1995, we have digitized the complete back runs of nearly 1,400 academic journals from over 800 publishers. Our ultimate objective is to provide affordable access to scholarly content to anyone who needs it.
In this context, JSTOR can actually be seen as making access to the material possible in the first place, in which a system where they are paid by a university to provide no-fee access (to the researcher) seems to make a lot of sense to me.

How accessible are these journals outside of JSTOR?

I wonder how much they charge for what access. There is probably more to the story.
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In this context, JSTOR can actually be seen as making access to the material possible in the first place, in which a system where they are paid by a university to provide no-fee access (to the researcher) seems to make a lot of sense to me.

How accessible are these journals outside of JSTOR?

There is probably more to the story.
I saw that as well.

I also noticed that at the beginning of the article it talked about how he already had access to all the articles.

You're right, there has to be more.
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It says be "broke into" MIT's network. There is something wrong with that.
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I really dislike people who take it upon themselves to do what they feel is right for others. No one elected him to do such a thing and I'm sure most would object to stealing data from one of the most renowned universities, esp one that had contributed more to knowledge than he could ever dream of.

You're no advocate if you have to steal, in my opinion. You're just a person operating under the guise of your own self-righteous philosophy to justify your unlawful and immoral actions. This to me says that you're not in it for the "good of society" but to stroke your own massive ego.

Now he's being indicted and if found guilty, won't be there to do anything for anybody.

Stupid choices, deserve stupid punishments. Execute him.
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I really dislike people who take it upon themselves to do what they feel is right for others. No one elected him to do such a thing and I'm sure most would object to stealing data from one of the most renowned universities, esp one that had contributed more to knowledge than he could ever dream of.

You're no advocate if you have to steal, in my opinion. You're just a person operating under the guise of your own self-righteous philosophy to justify your unlawful and immoral actions. This to me says that you're not in it for the "good of society" but to stroke your own massive ego.

Now he's being indicted and if found guilty, won't be there to do anything for anybody.

Stupid choices, deserve stupid punishments. Execute him.
What remarkable behavior. I will attempt to emulate it.

hurrrr duurr hurff HMMPH hick durrrr hurrrrrr herpa
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I don't understand why he broke in to the network. Just get someone to do it for you.

Pretty dumb choice to do this at MIT when every community college in America has the same access to JSTOR. Why would anyone want that stuff anyway? Unless they were writing college papers. Maybe he's one of the guys that sells pre-written papers online.

I think he wanted to get caught, like he would be a martyr or something for a cause that no1 gives a damn about. Too bad that anything in there for the past 100 years is most likely already online. The only things exclusive to JSTOR is probably the very small collection from pre 1900.
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What remarkable behavior. I will attempt to emulate it.

hurrrr duurr hurff HMMPH hick durrrr hurrrrrr herpa
...Huh?
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...Huh?
My guess is it's some kind of veiled sarcasm but w/o much sarcasm and more veiled.
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