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US Government Shutting Down 40%(800) of Its Data Centers



The federal government has elected to shut down 800 of their vast collection of 2,000 data centers across the country over the next four years. Officials expect the pruning to save us billions.

Currently, the US spends $80 billion on information technology to run its numerous services and websites, making it the biggest buyer of IT in the world. But, in a bid to make the computing more efficient, many of these services will be consolidating and moving into the cloud. Sharing the computing load by performing tasks remotely and in tandem saves both processing power and money, saving $5 billion a year. And closing down the data centers, apart from it being better on the environment, will save $3 billion a year in energy costs.

And we're already ahead of schedule, on track to close down 373 center by 2012.
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Project to shut down extraneous servers will take twenty years and cost $50bn/yr, require the hiring of thousands of new bureaucrats, and when we finally do get down to 1200 servers, the entire IT division will be scrapped and all the data uploaded to a 3rd party cloud service.
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If they project savings of $3 billion from energy, where does the other $5 billion in savings come from? Could they really spend that much on licenses and new hardware every year?

Also, the "debt" figure is misleading. Every dollar that exists counts as 'debt', and for every $1 that exist, more than $1 is 'owed' because of interest charged on that 'debt'.

There is more debt than money, so it is pointless to talk about paying any of it back. It would just be shoveling money into the hands of private banks for no good reason.
Edited by willis888 - 7/20/11 at 11:12am
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hmm I may have to hit up some government surplus auctions in the near future.
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They did it again cut the IT Budget! What are you going to do about Infrastructure Security if you don't have security of knowing where your data is stored? Seems to be biting your arm when you add all the Politicians Paychecks they will found out that they could cut those and sack some of them or just all of them.

You can't have 3rd Party Company looking after a Government Information? Looking at Outsourcing are we? Mmmmm...I thought that taught you that outsourcing doesn't solve anything and only gives more issues to consider that would have been better not to.

Some issue's to deal with:
  • How you know your information is secured in area that could be a unknown Enemy of the State?
  • Who will you trust if you don't know the Physical Presence of the Servers?
  • Who is going to have Access and how your going to secure that Access if it going to be a external access?
  • How would you know your Data is destroyed Securely if you don't have any Presence in your Country?

Some of them though could be quite challenging if they are going to be outsourcing for another company to take care. I know they already do for some Information, but if they decide to take budget cuts seriously they will consider a much more suitable solution that could take less drastic action than just shutting Data Warehouse's and not thinking how your going to Secure your Data. Going back to Paper now are we?

Cloud Computing is a Marketing Term and has been here a long time. Have you ever used a Email Service? Do you work at a Place that you use a Computer to connect to the Domain? Well it has been since well along time. If you go back Novell and Microsoft was well fighting which was better Novell eDirectory or Active Directory. Microsoft won if your wondering or everyone be still on Novell Products.
Rest in peace Novell! I will always remember you and your advocation and dedication to fight for more Open Source Products.
Edited by wolf_08 - 7/20/11 at 12:05pm
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If they project savings of $3 billion from energy, where does the other $5 billion in savings come from? Could they really spend that much on licenses and new hardware every year?

Also, the "debt" figure is misleading. Every dollar that exists counts as 'debt', and for every $1 that exist, more than $1 is 'owed' because of interest charged on that 'debt'.

There is more debt than money, so it is pointless to talk about paying any of it back. It would just be shoveling money into the hands of private banks for no good reason.
Most people don't understand just how absurd the Federal Reserve system is...
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moving into the cloud
Lovely.

I don't oppose it, I just don't want my numbers out in the cloud.
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With all this talk about cutting budgets and privatization now-a-days, how about we try privatizing the private sector?

http://www.cato.org/pubs/handbook/hb111/hb111-26.pdf

CATO is the Republican party's top think tank... And even they agree.
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Closed. This wasn't a political thread to begin with but some members thought it was fine to turn it into one, anyway.
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