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Hi guys

Quick Questions:

-Can anyone recommend me a good SSD? 120GB. Dont mind around £150. Ive heard the intel ones are good?

-Also, could someone point me towards a SATA cable for it as i have none atm? This one ok?:

[ame="http://www.amazon.co.uk/StarTech-com-Right-Angle-Serial-Cable/dp/B0001Y8UI4/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1311199504&sr=8-2"]StarTech.com 18 inch Right Angle Serial ATA Cable (1 end): Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories[/ame]


-There are so many tweaks that can be done with SSDs. From the links ive been given they seem to repeat themselves somewhat using a couple of different methods. Anyway, everytime i decide to reinstall Windows 7, are these tweaks going to have to be redone again? I assume they are.

-Disable superfetch and prefetch? What do they do anyway?

Sorry for the noob questions. Just dont wanna get n realise i havent got something or do something wrong. Its my first time rolleyes.gif

Thanks guys!
Edited by 8564dan - 7/20/11 at 3:06pm
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I never touched the tweaks or even looked at them when I used an SSD and everything was fine.

I don't know how much C300/M400 go over there but they are pretty darn good. Also SandForce II drives are still very capable and probably cheaper. Haven't been looking at SSD's much lately I must confess. The 'problems' with the newest sandforce driven SSD's must have been fixed by now, I hope, since they are the cream of the crop. I'll let someone else do the suggesting.


That SATA cable will be fine.
post #3 of 19
I picked the Intel series 320 120GB after researching about SSD's because Intel seemed to have the best track record for reliability. I wasn't concerned that it wasn't the fastest because I knew it was going to be way faster than a spinner.

There have been reports which seem to have been verified by Intel that there is a firmware (hopefully) glitch that can cause the 320 series to show up as only 8MB of space, causing the loss of all data on the drive. This is following a power failure. Now, the original source I read it from stated that this occurred after 2-3 hours of power-cycling the drive (flipping the power on and off, not turning on and shutting down). There have been a number of posts from folks that have had this problem around here after power interruptions.

Supposedly you can replace your SSD through Intel if this happens to you, but you'd still have the pain of swapping it out/replacing data on the drive. Hopefully there will be a firmware update out soon to correct this (I said hopefully, not that I've heard any facts on this).

I personally haven't had any problems with mine, and if it blows up on me, I will still replace it with another Intel.

With regards to a SATA cable, my SSD came with one in the box, but I did use an aftermarket one because the one provided was red, which stuck out like a sore thumb in my case. tongue.gif

As far as all the "tweaks" you read about, all I did after getting everything up and running was to disable hibernation, verify TRIM, and reduce the size of my paging file and restore file (there might be one or two other things, but I can't remember them right now smile.gif). The last two things I would have done even with a regular HDD. There are a lot of other things that I've read about and many arguments for and against them, but this is all I chose to do and I'm happy with the performance of my computer.

Just my 2c worth, hope it helps,

Rich
Edited by Lost Hawaiian - 7/20/11 at 3:24pm
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Ok thanks guys. What do you reckon on this one:

[ame="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-Solid-State-Drive-320-internal/dp/tech-data/B004TFXBMG/ref=de_a_smtd"]Intel Solid-State Drive 320 Series - Solid state drive - 120 GB - internal - 2.5" - SATA-300: Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories[/ame]


I assume the latest SSDs have TRIM?
Edited by 8564dan - 7/20/11 at 3:47pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 8564dan;14286247 
Ok thanks guys. What do you reckon on this one:

Intel Solid-State Drive 320 Series - Solid state drive - 120 GB - internal - 2.5" - SATA-300: Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories


I assume the latest SSDs have TRIM?


[ame="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Crucial-CT128M4Solid-State-Drive2-128GB/dp/B004W2JKZI/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1311202394&sr=1-1"]This[/ame] is what I would get if I was getting a new SSD.
post #6 of 19
Hmm...I couldn't get the link to work, but I found it on the Amazon UK website. Unfortunately I have no idea what the exchange rate is so I don't know if that's a good price or not. redface.gif

I can tell you that I paid $219 for mine a few months ago on Amazon.

TRIM is actually a feature in the OS. IIRC Windows 7 supports TRIM natively.
To check whether TRIM is enabled, open an elevated command prompt and type:

"fsutil behavior query disabledeletenotify"

without the "".

Results:
DisableDeleteNotify = 1 (TRIM commands are disabled)
DisableDeleteNotify = 0 (TRIM commands are enabled)

Hope that helps,

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Originally Posted by The Master Chief;14286380 
This is what I would get if I was getting a new SSD.

I will take a look thanks smile.gif. Annoying that my mobo is only SATA 2 but as SATA 3 is backwards compatable it doesnt matter for now i guess.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lost Hawaiian;14286419 
Hmm...I couldn't get the link to work, but I found it on the Amazon UK website. Unfortunately I have no idea what the exchange rate is so I don't know if that's a good price or not. redface.gif

I can tell you that I paid $219 for mine a few months ago on Amazon.

TRIM is actually a feature in the OS. IIRC Windows 7 supports TRIM natively.
To check whether TRIM is enabled, open an elevated command prompt and type:

"fsutil behavior query disabledeletenotify"

without the "".

Results:
DisableDeleteNotify = 1 (TRIM commands are disabled)
DisableDeleteNotify = 0 (TRIM commands are enabled)

Hope that helps,

Rich

Thanks! I thought the SSD had to support TRIM though? Such as this one:

[ame="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Solid-State-Support-Sandforce-Controller/dp/B004BI2B54/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1311203292&sr=8-3"]120 GB SSD Solid State Hard Drive SATA 2 II 2.5 Inch with TRIM Support & Sandforce Controller 120GB: Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories[/ame]


Also in the command prompt with TRIM, does it automatically enable it or do i have to manually press 0? I know i have to enable AHCI in BIOS.
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Had a look at that Crucial one but there seems to be complaints about the firmware?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 8564dan;14286574 
I will take a look thanks smile.gif. Annoying that my mobo is only SATA 2 but as SATA 3 is backwards compatable it doesnt matter for now i guess.



Thanks! I thought the SSD had to support TRIM though? Such as this one:

120 GB SSD Solid State Hard Drive SATA 2 II 2.5 Inch with TRIM Support & Sandforce Controller 120GB: Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories


Also in the command prompt with TRIM, does it automatically enable it or do i have to manually press 0? I know i have to enable AHCI in BIOS.

A board with no SATA III will only cap anything over 375MB/s, which is usually only achieved during sequential read/writes, which is less than 10% of daily computer usage (pretty much only during large file transfers). You won't notice a difference.

If youre using Windows 7, the OS should enable it automatically when it sees the device. You use that to verify that it is enabled, and if it is not, there should be another prompt to enable it. Defragging should also be disabled. Again, the OS should disable it when it sees the device, but double check to make sure (this is one of the tweaks you want to make sure to do, as automatic defragging will result in a LOT of unnecessary rewrites which reduces the overall life of the drive).

All new(er) SSDs should support TRIM (except when put into a RAID setup). If they put it into the name, its probably to jazz it up for OOH AAHs. Get a name brand one. Intel drives are a little more expensive, but are known for the least failure rates. Crucial and OCZ drives are a little bit faster with quality slightly lower than Intel's (and they seem to have ironed out their issues).
    
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A board with no SATA III will only cap anything over 375MB/s, which is usually only achieved during sequential read/writes, which is less than 10% of daily computer usage (pretty much only during large file transfers). You won't notice a difference.

If youre using Windows 7, the OS should enable it automatically when it sees the device. You use that to verify that it is enabled, and if it is not, there should be another prompt to enable it. Defragging should also be disabled. Again, the OS should disable it when it sees the device, but double check to make sure (this is one of the tweaks you want to make sure to do, as automatic defragging will result in a LOT of unnecessary rewrites which reduces the overall life of the drive).

All new(er) SSDs should support TRIM (except when put into a RAID setup). If they put it into the name, its probably to jazz it up for OOH AAHs. Get a name brand one. Intel drives are a little more expensive, but are known for the least failure rates. Crucial and OCZ drives are a little bit faster with quality slightly lower than Intel's (and they seem to have ironed out their issues).

Many thanks smile.gif. I really dont know what one to get though! Ive known OCZ are good but not sure.
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