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Is their a big difference in quality when using HDMI over Component input? The refurb units don't have HDMI out so I would have to use component and this would be on a 28 inch Hanns G monitor.
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Is their a big difference in quality when using HDMI over Component input? The refurb units don't have HDMI out so I would have to use component and this would be on a 28 inch Hanns G monitor.
Component is 480p which is 640x480/704×480. And it's an analog connection. It's the literal best analog connection you can get, it separates certain color bands to prevent color-bleeding that coaxial/composite suffers from.

HDMI is a digital connection that offers high-def resolutions as well as audio and video through the 1 cord. HDMI supports 720p which is 1280x720 and 1080p which is 1920x1080.

Using a lower resolution on any type of flat panel display that's not it's native res will look quite terrible, especially 480p
Edited by Ascii Aficionado - 7/20/11 at 7:11pm
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Aw ok got it. Thanks for that info. I may try and see if I can get a slim 4gb model somewhere for around $160 :-)
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Aw ok got it. Thanks for that info. I may try and see if I can get a slim 4gb model somewhere for around $160 :-)
You're quite welcome.
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Is their a big difference in quality when using HDMI over Component input? The refurb units don't have HDMI out so I would have to use component and this would be on a 28 inch Hanns G monitor.
Some of them do have HDMI out, it just depends on your luck I guess. I got mine for like $150 from there in January, it has HDMI, and I've had no problems with it.
Will his brother at least share his games with him? If not, that will add a decent amount to the cost. My 10 year old little brother plays mine more than I do :/
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Is their a big difference in quality when using HDMI over Component input? The refurb units don't have HDMI out so I would have to use component and this would be on a 28 inch Hanns G monitor.
Best Buy sells a cable that takes the proprietary/standard Xbox display connector and converts it to a VGA cable. I used it when I had a early model 360 running off my monitor. Capable of 1080p, too. Luckily now, Amazon has them for ~$5. I paid around $35 for mine at best buy. Luckily, too, when I traded in my Xbox at Gamestop, I got about $25 worth of credit for it.
 
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You do not need HDMI, component supports 1080p. If you insist, a lot of older ones have HDMI out, keep looking. Only the first and second generation 360 did not have an HDMI port. Everything built after the second year of release did.

Component will support up to 1080p. It IS NOT a low definition cable. You will not notice much of a difference in video quality between it and an HDMI cable, although HDMI provides much better audio. Composite is 480p, Component is up to 1080p. THERE IS NOT A 360 EVER MADE THAT DOES NOT HAVE HI-DEF CAPABILITY, so don't worry about that. Whether his monitor accepts yPbCr is a different story...
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You do not need HDMI, component supports 1080p. If you insist, a lot of older ones have HDMI out, keep looking. Only the first and second generation 360 did not have an HDMI port. Everything built after the second year of release did.

Component will support up to 1080p. It IS NOT a low definition cable. You will not notice much of a difference in video quality between it and an HDMI cable, although HDMI provides much better audio. Composite is 480p, Component is up to 1080p. THERE IS NOT A 360 EVER MADE THAT DOES NOT HAVE HI-DEF CAPABILITY, so don't worry about that. Whether his monitor accepts yPbCr is a different story...


Component cables don't support 1080p, depending on the source, component does support 720p, and even 1080i *very rare*, just realize the analog signal is being converted to digital.

Where as if you had an HDMI connection it would be maintained in a digital state at all times.

This is also relative to when the TV was manufactured, some TV's only support 480p via component, even some flat panels, as I said it's relative to when it was made as well as the source hardware.

The reason HDMI is always thought of as the only option for a Hig-Def display is that it's digital which allows for proper aspect ratio control, and basically anything that supports an HDMI connection would at least be a 720p display and Component would simply be inferior. The exception to this would be DVI, which is just as good as HDMI, but isn't able to transfer audio via the same cable.
Edited by Ascii Aficionado - 8/1/11 at 12:37pm
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That is a myth Ascii Aficionado. Component cables do in fact support 1080p.

Many devices will only use them for up to 1080i, but that is not the cable at fault. You will find almost no players willing to put a 1080p signal out without the HDCP that is present with an HDMI cable. The same way a PS3 will not allow 1080p to be broadcast over component for copyright reasons (HDCP detection via HDMI is a standard for BluRay players).

I get 1080p through games on both my PS3 and my Xbox 360, via the supplied cables that came in the box. Both are capable, and so are a lot of TV's. Between an LG, Samsung, and a cheap Sanyo... All 42" LCD (and one plasma) ALL accept 1080p through component, it isn't that rare.

Yes, I'm sure the signal is not carried as a full digital copy from source to end, but you will notice little to no difference when going from component to HDMI (unless you had a TV that limited it to 1080i/720p) when it comes to video. Maybe a slight sharpening (due to ZERO compression happening) that is not noticeable to 99% of people with the naked eye.
Edited by DizturbedOne - 8/1/11 at 8:44pm
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That is a myth Ascii Aficionado. Component cables do in fact support 1080p.

Many devices will only use them for up to 1080i, but that is not the cable at fault. You will find almost no players willing to put a 1080p signal out without the HDCP that is present with an HDMI cable. The same way a PS3 will not allow 1080p to be broadcast over component for copyright reasons (HDCP detection via HDMI is a standard for BluRay players).

I get 1080p through games on both my PS3 and my Xbox 360, via the supplied cables that came in the box. Both are capable, and so are a lot of TV's. Between an LG, Samsung, and a cheap Sanyo... All 42" LCD (and one plasma) ALL accept 1080p through component, it isn't that rare.

Yes, I'm sure the signal is not carried as a full digital copy from source to end, but you will notice little to no difference when going from component to HDMI (unless you had a TV that limited it to 1080i/720p) when it comes to video. Maybe a slight sharpening (due to ZERO compression happening) that is not noticeable to 99% of people with the naked eye.
You actually are correct, I worded some of what I said improperly as well. The basis of it was correct. I also said what HD resolution you can get through component is relative to the source and display as well, and it's not a universal standard for all sources/displays.

I wasn't sure if the 360 itself was capable of 720p or 1080p via component though.

And actually to further back you up the real reason to switch to HDMI was for HDCP protection, and companies pushed it for this very reason.

I also pointed out that if the OP is going to buy a television, it makes significantly more sense to just go with HDMI, but, it's not absolutely necessary.

And the aspect ratio scaling/control you get from a digital to digital connection isn't needed if at least the display and/or source have controls for that.
Edited by Ascii Aficionado - 8/1/11 at 8:59pm
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