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Update: Wife just told me the cpu BSOD with an error code of 124 (assuming I'm supposed to be looking a the code at the bottom that is BEFORE the long list of codes in in parantheses).

So 46x isn't stable at 1.35vcore. Should I keep going or will changing these things below help?

MUNAIM's tips from above with regards to the video he linked to:

LLC compensates vdroop so try setting Load Line calibration to Level 3.

Check this Video out (overclocking on Asrock mobo's):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BD-Ou...ature=youtu.be
Ignore when he say's disable spread spectrum, pll overvoltage (PLL overvoltage only needed after a certain point, when Xmulti doesn't boot) C1E and Speedstep. You can leave those ON.
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post #22 of 28
every chip is different, and your voltages are better than mine by couple notches, haha.
i am at 45 and i have to use 1.351 vcore.

the 0x124 BSOD can be due to a memory stability problem, and sometimes a vcore problem.
i have been plagued with the 0x124 bsod ever since i started OCing and i havent figured out what the hackin the issue is.
i only get it when i leave my PC running for for days straight, and it seems like it happens when coming out of sleep...not sure though.
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post #23 of 28
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Originally Posted by MAKATTACK View Post
Update: Wife just told me the cpu BSOD with an error code of 124 (assuming I'm supposed to be looking a the code at the bottom that is BEFORE the long list of codes in in parantheses).

So 46x isn't stable at 1.35vcore. Should I keep going or will changing these things below help?

MUNAIM's tips from above with regards to the video he linked to:

LLC compensates vdroop so try setting Load Line calibration to Level 3.

Check this Video out (overclocking on Asrock mobo's):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BD-Ou...ature=youtu.be
Ignore when he say's disable spread spectrum, pll overvoltage (PLL overvoltage only needed after a certain point, when Xmulti doesn't boot) C1E and Speedstep. You can leave those ON.

recap:c1e, c3, c6, speedstep, spread specturm - disable
ppl overvolate - enable
also, try LLC level 2, thats what i use
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post #24 of 28
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Thanks guys. So does it sound like I should run memtest to make sure my ram is okay? I have been frequently getting a message after a crash saying windows wants to check my disk for errors...I'm guessing this is just related to the crash though and that my drive is still good.

Daxx: It looks as though your suggestions are the exact opposite of Munaim's. I did notice my vcore not really going up to 1.35 when stressing in P95...it kind of hovered around 1.312 if I remember right. So vcore is being throttled down for some reason. Any idea why?
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post #25 of 28
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Obviously there is some disagreement with regards to settings. I read up a bit on LLC and I'm not sure whaat to do with this. I did notice my max temp on my cpu in Real Monitor had a 91C max temp listed...not sure what caused this though as I never witnessed this excessive temp when stress testing....
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post #26 of 28
vdroop = load to idel vcore difference. On 100% load vcore usually comes down a little to prevent certain voltage spike damaging the CPU. It is there for a protection.
vdrop = vcore difference between BIOS setting and after windows booted up.
There is usually some voltage loss from operating the mobo and windows started up.

LLC is for compensation (or how much drop you want) for vdroop.
More you level up (on asrock board) it becomes steeper curve.
You might be seeing too much vdroop which makes the load unstable.
Try setting it at level 2. (don't go level1 it's too much IMO unless you are going 5.0+)
Also try turning "Internal PLL Overvoltage" ON if you are going for more than 4.6GHz.

Also to prevent vdrop, there's a setting in BIOS called "Additional turbo voltage".
That is for compensating vdrop.
I put it +0.004 so it actually adds little bit of vcore to compensate the vdrop.

Also I noticed you have 16GB of ram.
More RAM you have, it is more likely that gets harder to make system stable at higher clock.
Since the IMC (internal memory controller) is on-die within the chip on SB, higher the GHz goes, it stresses IMC more.

I'd suggest you run "HCI memtest" you can google it and d/l.
Free version has a limit of 2048 max RAM to be tested (I think... not 100% sure, thou...).
So in your case, you have to open up 8 x HCI Memtest windows.
within those 8, 7 of then you put "2048" on the RAM window.
And the last one, you just choose "All unused RAM".
This way you can test every possible unused RAM.
Do this at least one cycle without an error.

If it passes fine, then try putting ONLY 2 sticks (I'm assuming you have 4x4GB sticks.) in dual channel. (means put then in the slot #1 and #3 or #2 and #4)
And test the stability with Prime95.

If it passes fine with 8GB, your DRAM or VTT (VCCIO, memory controller voltage) needs more voltages with 16GB of RAM.

If the initial memtest fail, try putting one notch up on both DRAM volatage and VTT. and test again. Or try lowering your CPU to stock and do the memtest again. This way, you can find out your RAM is causing you the problem or not.
Edited by Tunagoblin - 7/22/11 at 8:25am
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post #27 of 28
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Awesome! Thanks for the advice Tuna. I'll check it out. Wow, this whole "easy" overclocking of Sandy Bridge is turning out to be anything but. In order for me to take RAM out, I have to take off my Noctua Cooler and then reseat everything. Any way to hide two of the sticks with software or something? Yes, they are 4 gb sticks.

If not, can I just try a lower clock? This is turning out to be WAY much more work that anticipated and than I have time for unfortunatley. I would rather have a lower clock than have to start taking the cpu apart again!

Will I run into the same problems even with a lower clock?
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post #28 of 28
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Originally Posted by MAKATTACK View Post
Awesome! Thanks for the advice Tuna. I'll check it out. Wow, this whole "easy" overclocking of Sandy Bridge is turning out to be anything but. In order for me to take RAM out, I have to take off my Noctua Cooler and then reseat everything. Any way to hide two of the sticks with software or something? Yes, they are 4 gb sticks.

If not, can I just try a lower clock? This is turning out to be WAY much more work that anticipated and than I have time for unfortunatley. I would rather have a lower clock than have to start taking the cpu apart again!

Will I run into the same problems even with a lower clock?
SB is still the easiest to OC of all.
It used to take me weeks to gain 0.4 GHz increase on my old AMD...
Since OC CPU meant OC RAM also... was tough to find the sweet spot for the two to work together...
Learned a lot for doing that, though.
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