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Ooooh, P4s are fun! I'm still running one, you can check out the specs in my system list.
In regards to cooling, I doubt you could find a better air cooler than the Scythe Katana 3, which most of us, P4 enthusiasts, are using in the P4 owners club (check sig ).

You'd also want an HT P4. The top-of-the-line 3.4GHz Northwoods/Prescotts can be bought used for ~$30-35, but you would likely achieve pretty similar OC results on a 3.0-3.2GHz CPU, which would cost a lot less, as well. These also have a 800MHz front side bus; that would provide a huge performance boost.

The mobo will likely choke your overclock, as s478 ASRock mobos don't have voltage control, but you should get semi-decent results even at stock volts - I had a 2.6GHz HT Northwood run stable at 3.25GHz with no voltage increase on an ASRock p4i48, which is even worse than yours.

You should also check your RAM in CPU-z and note the supported timings and frequencies.

Regarding the video card... Well, it's hard to say. The HD 3650/3850/4650/4670 cards are all awesome, yet they're utter overkill and would make you go over your budget. I'm running a 4670 and even in a perfect scenario, I can only get it to perform at ~75-80% - even the 3.4GHz Northwood is a massive bottleneck.
The 3650 would be quite a nice choice if you had the funds for it, but there's another issue with these newer cards: they're not officially supported by AMD and the new AGP hotfixes rarely work. The older drivers do work, but you're still likely to encounter some issues. Heck, I don't know. The HD series cards are awesome, but if you're gunning for a cheap solution, you could try looking for a cheaper x1*** series alternative, or check what those green guys have to offer.
In regard to W7, it's easily possible. With no apps running, W7 32-bit Ultimate SP1 uses up ~300-350MB out of the 2 gigs of my DDR400 RAM. Sure, getting more would be beneficial to you, but 1GB is still enough to get your W7 installation up and running. Don't get more than 2GB, though. You won't use it up. My 4670 lets me play quite modern games at semi-playable framerates even on a P4, but on the appropriate settings, none of them hit a ram bottleneck. The closest I got was 300MB for windows, 900MB for Aion, and ~500MB for Aion's cached memory, or whatever. All I know is it used ~1.7GB. No other game came even close (I can play both mass effect games at semi-decent framerates; The Witcher is smooth; according to youtube videos DA:O should run fine as well; etc.).

There is a downside to W7, though. If you keep using a legacy video card, you'll likely be unable to use the manufacturer's drivers (not sure about nvidia; positive about ATI). When I still had my 9600 PRO, it had to use Microsoft's WDDM drivers, as the ATI ones didn't work on W7. The 3d performance was identical to that of the ATI ones, but the 2d went down a bit. Still, after installing W7, I didn't want to touch XP again, so I didn't go back

If you have any more questions, or if I forgot to mention something - shoot. The P4 owners club should be able to assist you too
Wow, great post man.

Cooler: if you say that the MB doesn't have voltage managment then it's probably useless to get a new cooler since the limiting factor for the OC is probably going to be the MB anyways...
On a side note, a have a Freezer 7 Pro that has the intel mounting system broken, is there a cheap way to mount that onto his MB?

Do you think that a new CPU is worth the $? I.e, will he se a big change in performance? Remember that OCing capability is probably not that important since (as you said) the MB will likley be the limiting factor...

Yeah, I have to check the RAM out, but I have to get over to the guys house to do that (the rig stayed ther), and he's travelling tomorrow so it won't be for a couple weeks at best...

I'm not sure if I was clear enugh about the GPU: I have a 6200GT that I'm going to give him; were not looking to buy a new GPU unless it gives a big performance boost for <100$. From what I've heard AGP GPUs have a horrible performance/price ratio....

Yeah, I'm thinking W7 is a good bet too... it ran great on my mom's C2D w/ 2GB RAM (a faster system overall but with only 2GB of RAM...). I can always try it on one HDD and leave his system intact on the other.
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Phew! Finally got thru all that.... Those I did get to thank, thanks again, and those I didn't: it's because your post was USELESS. JUST KIDDING .
No, really, lot's of answers and advice, thanks a lot.
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Wow, great post man.

Cooler: if you say that the MB doesn't have voltage managment then it's probably useless to get a new cooler since the limiting factor for the OC is probably going to be the MB anyways...
On a side note, a have a Freezer 7 Pro that has the intel mounting system broken, is there a cheap way to mount that onto his MB?

Do you think that a new CPU is worth the $? I.e, will he se a big change in performance? Remember that OCing capability is probably not that important since (as you said) the MB will likley be the limiting factor...

Yeah, I have to check the RAM out, but I have to get over to the guys house to do that (the rig stayed ther), and he's travelling tomorrow so it won't be for a couple weeks at best...

I'm not sure if I was clear enugh about the GPU: I have a 6200GT that I'm going to give him; were not looking to buy a new GPU unless it gives a big performance boost for <100$. From what I've heard AGP GPUs have a horrible performance/price ratio....

Yeah, I'm thinking W7 is a good bet too... it ran great on my mom's C2D w/ 2GB RAM (a faster system overall but with only 2GB of RAM...). I can always try it on one HDD and leave his system intact on the other.
In regard to cooling... Well, you might be fine if you continue to use your current CPU, but if you upgrade, the stock cooling solution might not be enough. I used a stock aluminum intel cooler intended for a 2.4GHz Craperon on a 3.4GHz P4. When summer came, my temps under load rocketed above 70C, which is critical. The scythe katana, though, instantly lowered that to 48C.

The CPU is important. My first netburst CPU was a 2.4GHz/FSB400/128KB L2 Celeron. It was awful. Now, I'm not sure if it was the HT, the FSB or the L2 cache that made a biggest impact, but when I moved to a 2.6GHz/FSB800/512KB L2 HT Northwood P4, I gained a 40% boost in performance at stock. After OCing it to 3.25, the performance gain was between 70-80%. The 3.4GHz NW is exactly twice as powerful as that old Craperon of mine. Even though yours is already a P4, it's lacking power in the FSB department and the lack of HT means it will be HORRIBLE at multitasking. I'm not saying to go for the top-tier pentiums, but at least get a 2.8-3.0GHz one. 2.8GHz ones can be had for ~$6 on eBay, 3.0 goes for ~$9, saw a 3.2 for $10...
DARN IT! 3.4GHz P4s now go for $22 I bought mine for $38 half a year ago. Killer deal.

Even with no voltage control, you can still overclock a bit. As I said previously, I OCed my 2.6GHz p4 to 3.25GHz on stock. It all depends on your chip

What concerns the GPU... Sorry, but the 6200GT is a poor card. It's pretty much on par with my old 9600PRO. The thing is, it severely lacks framebuffer. A big performance boost for <$100? Sure! I got my used HD4670(which, together with the HD3850, is the best AGP card) for the equivalent of ~$65(locally; I admit, ebay prices are higher). If you want less overkill and a lower price, I'd suggest a 4650 or a 3650. The latter will likely not be bottlenecked at all, though don't quote me on that. I'd still recommend the 4xxx series, though. Not only the performance will be killer, but you'll also get flash acceleration (stream HD youtube vids, yay!) and a low power draw. I also configured my media player (Media Player Classic:Home Cinema) to use GPU acceleration, so I can now easily watch regular full HD movies too.
I already told you of the games my rig allows me to play, so don't go around underestimating dem s478 AGP PCs With a few smart upgrades, you can get pretty sweet performance, not to mention having an overkill retro rig fetches you cool points (I think ).

Oh, right, it'd be great if you could post the PSU specs or at least a photo of its side sticker. Let's hope you don't need to upgrade that as well.
Don't forget the RAM specs either
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There is some misinformation around here. Let's address that before I answer the OP.


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Of course any computer with a chip that supports the x86 instruction set family will run Windows 7.
Not true. Starting with Windows XP, newer Microsoft OS'es won't run on a CPU that does not support Pentium instructions (a 486 for example).



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I searched for your motherboard all i would say is;

if you want to install windows 7 i dont think it supports your 6200

If i was me and your was been series i would

Buy a Hyper thread pentium 4 as it supports them
2gb ddr 400
and a nvidia 8400 AGP

No point buying the samsung spinpoint either just stick with ide when he comes to his new build later there maybe better hard drives out then anyway, if he was doing a new build soon then just wait

And install 7 it should work ok for the normal stuff flash games internet ect and some older games

Several mistakes in this post.

1. The Geforce 6200 IS supported by current Nvidia drivers. It's the FX5xxx series that are not supported by current drivers, but even those work with a Microsoft driver;

2. There is no Nvidia 8400 AGP. Nvidia stopped making AGP cards with the Geforce 7 series. The last oficial card was the 7900GS, with some manufacturers releasing unnoficial 7950GT AGP cards;

3. The 80GB IDE drives he has are slow. The areal density of those disks is low, thus making them slow. They probably also have a small cache. There are a lot of reasons for buying a new HDD, especially a SATA one as they can just be moved onto a newer system when he decides to upgrade. It will be much, much faster. I have a 500 GB Caviar Black and I noticed the difference when moving to a 1TB Caviar Black, so a jump from an 80GB will bring a monumental improvement.


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Now, to my answer, from my own experience (also told on the P4 owners club Hyoketsu mentioned:


1. If you have the stock heatsink without a copper core, there is no point in trying to overclock that CPU; just buy a second hand P4 Northwood with HT (makes a very noticeable difference nowadays) and an 800 Mhz FSB (if you motherboard supports this FSB).

The 2.8 Ghz can be found for quite cheap, with 3Ghz and 3.2 also cheap. The 3.4 is a bit more expensive;

2. The 6200 will only allow for some very basic gaming. I own a 6200 AGP and I know what the performance is like; On the plus side, you should have no problems with drivers as Nvidia still supports it.

3. Of course, no point in getting a new AGP card as it is not only expensive, but will be useless in a new system. Unless he were a crazy/enthusiast like me and Hyoketsu, but from your descritpion he isn't.

My recommendation is for you to try and find a good 7900GS or an ATI X1950 Pro 256MB (cheaper) or a 512MB (more expensive). Those will even play games like Left 4 Dead at moderate settings.

4. Get a 1TB Sata HDD. Plenty of room and half the price of a 2TB HDD.

5. 1GB of RAM with Windows 7 is not enough. I have a Netbook that came with 1GB of RAM and Windows 7 starter and the RAM is insufficient for daily tasks,the paging to the HDD is much more frequent. It will work, but especially with games, it is simply not enough. 2GB is a good starting point.

Cheers!
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There is some misinformation around here. Let's address that before I answer the OP.




Not true. Starting with Windows XP, newer Microsoft OS'es won't run on a CPU that does not support Pentium instructions (a 486 for example).






Several mistakes in this post.

1. The Geforce 6200 IS supported by current Nvidia drivers. It's the FX5xxx series that are not supported by current drivers, but even those work with a Microsoft driver;

2. There is no Nvidia 8400 AGP. Nvidia stopped making AGP cards with the Geforce 7 series. The last oficial card was the 7900GS, with some manufacturers releasing unnoficial 7950GT AGP cards;

3. The 80GB IDE drives he has are slow. The areal density of those disks is low, thus making them slow. They probably also have a small cache. There are a lot of reasons for buying a new HDD, especially a SATA one as they can just be moved onto a newer system when he decides to upgrade. It will be much, much faster. I have a 500 GB Caviar Black and I noticed the difference when moving to a 1TB Caviar Black, so a jump from an 80GB will bring a monumental improvement.


----------------------------


Now, to my answer, from my own experience (also told on the P4 owners club Hyoketsu mentioned:


1. If you have the stock heatsink without a copper core, there is no point in trying to overclock that CPU; just buy a second hand P4 Northwood with HT (makes a very noticeable difference nowadays) and an 800 Mhz FSB (if you motherboard supports this FSB).

The 2.8 Ghz can be found for quite cheap, with 3Ghz and 3.2 also cheap. The 3.4 is a bit more expensive;

2. The 6200 will only allow for some very basic gaming. I own a 6200 AGP and I know what the performance is like; On the plus side, you should have no problems with drivers as Nvidia still supports it.

3. Of course, no point in getting a new AGP card as it is not only expensive, but will be useless in a new system. Unless he were a crazy/enthusiast like me and Hyoketsu, but from your descritpion he isn't.

My recommendation is for you to try and find a good 7900GS or an ATI X1950 Pro 256MB (cheaper) or a 512MB (more expensive). Those will even play games like Left 4 Dead at moderate settings.

4. Get a 1TB Sata HDD. Plenty of room and half the price of a 2TB HDD.

5. 1GB of RAM with Windows 7 is not enough. I have a Netbook that came with 1GB of RAM and Windows 7 starter and the RAM is insufficient for daily tasks,the paging to the HDD is much more frequent. It will work, but especially with games, it is simply not enough. 2GB is a good starting point.

Cheers!
GPU: Ye thats my mistake we sell a 8400gs/6200 in work after looking on pny website it was pci e and the 6200 on there website was agp.

HDD/gpu: I though the memory and a CPU upgrade would be better than the hard drive thats why i said upgrade that. Also you are on about graphics card i have a ati x1950 pro 512mb i paid 20 pound for one here in the uk so thats proberly about 30 dollers. It requires pci express power so just have a look if your power supply has that.

I played games like cnc 3 and cnc deluxe edition with the x1950 and it was a good card in my opinion.

Mem: The max memory according to the asrock website is 2gb with a max speed of 400mhz.

MB: Also yes is motherboard supports the newer P4 Upto 800mhz P4 HT
 
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3. Of course, no point in getting a new AGP card as it is not only expensive, but will be useless in a new system. Unless he were a crazy/enthusiast like me and Hyoketsu, but from your descritpion he isn't.
Haha, indeed, we went a bit overboard with our P4 rigs. Yet, there is a use for an AGP card even on a newer system. There are a couple of ASRock 775 motherboards, like this one, for example, that support both DDR/DDR2 and AGP/PCI-e! While it is still outdated, one could pop in a good 775 dual/quad CPU and keep using all other remaining components This would allow to fully utilize the power of the top-tier AGP cards and would let you upgrade the rest of the rig step-by-step.
You have to admit, decent C2D/C2Q rigs still pack quite a punch
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5. 1GB of RAM with Windows 7 is not enough. I have a Netbook that came with 1GB of RAM and Windows 7 starter and the RAM is insufficient for daily tasks,the paging to the HDD is much more frequent. It will work, but especially with games, it is simply not enough. 2GB is a good starting point.
True, 1GB isn't enough for heavier gaming, yet it should be enough if he decides to keep his 6200GT, as he won't be able to run intensive games anyway. I still stand by my opinion that 1GB should suffice for regular tasks.
Heck, if not, he can always revert to XP later
     
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What I'm thinking then:
Upgrade the CPU: Yes. If it's $15 and can give a 60% boost, it's a go.
Upgrade the RAM: Yes. I personally hate XP, and it isn't that expensive...;
Upgrade the GPU: No. The 6200GT (I know how much it sucks) can play his basic games, and he has a PS2 to play midrange games (which is what he could play if he got a newer AGP GPU, in no senario would he be playing crysis...). Also, this would probably require a PSU upgrade (I have to check on the PSU thou...)
Upgrade the HDD: Yes. As tpi said, it would probably increase perfomance by quite a bit (kind of like swithching from a HDD to an SSD nowdays I'm guessing, bah, maybe not THAT dramatic). I have a SATA drive we could try out anyways... I could run a HDD bench and see. Also, a new HDD would be 100% reusable and I don't think HDDs advance all that fast today (except for capacity).
Upgrade the MB: No. Might as well get a new rig bby then, lol.
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What I'm thinking then:
Upgrade the CPU: Yes. If it's $15 and can give a 60% boost, it's a go.
Upgrade the RAM: Yes. I personally hate XP, and it isn't that expensive...;
Upgrade the GPU: No. The 6200GT (I know how much it sucks) can play his basic games, and he has a PS2 to play midrange games (which is what he could play if he got a newer AGP GPU, in no senario would he be playing crysis...). Also, this would probably require a PSU upgrade (I have to check on the PSU thou...)
Upgrade the HDD: Yes. As tpi said, it would probably increase perfomance by quite a bit (kind of like swithching from a HDD to an SSD nowdays I'm guessing, bah, maybe not THAT dramatic). I have a SATA drive we could try out anyways... I could run a HDD bench and see. Also, a new HDD would be 100% reusable and I don't think HDDs advance all that fast today (except for capacity).
Upgrade the MB: No. Might as well get a new rig bby then, lol.
Given the low budget, sounds like a decent plan Drop by the P4 owners thread later, post some OC results/benchies
     
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Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-Bit Acer X243H 24" Microsoft SideWinder x4 Chieftec BPS-650C 
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Aerocool X-Warrior Black Edition Steelseries Kana Skyrim-pad Asus Xonar DG 
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Creative Inspire T3100 PS3 controller 
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Pentium 4 HT Northwood 3.4 @ 3.5GHz ASRock P4i48 Club3D Radeon HD4670 AGP 1GB 2x1GB PQI DDR400 
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MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Samsung SyncMaster 795mb 17" Microsoft Internet Keyboard Gigabyte GE-R460-V1 460W Caseless 
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