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I'd go for the 6850. Better card overal and they scale great if you ever want to Crossfire.
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I own both cards, but I put the GTX 460 in my secondary rig, and then bought another HD 6850.

Why?

Because the HD 6850 overclocks more than 30% with performance scaling, and no artifacts or instabilities.

My MSI GTX 460 cannot hit 900 MHZ stable.

Although when both cards are at stock, I'd say the GTX 460 1GB has a slight edge.

I wouldn't pay more than $150 for either card brand new, as that is what I paid after rebates and/or promotions (actually closer to $140 for the GTX 460 1GB).

Edited by damric - 7/20/11 at 9:41pm
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Will you be folding with it?
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Originally Posted by damric View Post
I own both cards, but I put the GTX 460 in my secondary rig, and then bought another HD 6850.

Why?

Because the HD 6850 overclocks more than 30% with performance scaling, and no artifacts or instabilities.

My MSI GTX 460 cannot hit 900 MHZ stable.

Although when both cards are at stock, I'd say the GTX 460 1GB has a slight edge.

I wouldn't pay more than $150 for either card brand new, as that is what I paid after rebates and/or promotions (actually closer to $140 for the GTX 460 1GB).
u r quite wrong here...
its quite the opposite....
stock for stock hd6850 wins but when both oced to their extremes then gtx 460 has the upper hand....want proof
here
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/revie...locking-study/

it even rivals hd 6870...
as u will see from the article when all these 3 cards gtx 460,hd6850,hd6870 are oced to their max..the gtx 460 comes out top some of the times when compared to hd6870 and beats hd6850 completely....
Edited by ghost_z - 7/20/11 at 9:51pm
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Except that review was done last October. Something going on a year old leaves me a bit in doubt. Either NVidia or AMD could really have pulled ahead via driver's in that large time gap.

NOTE: I'm not bashing one card or the other. My last series of cards were GTX 465's.

Something to consider though, the OP asked about the $170ish dollar range. Jjust two days ago Amazon was selling the 1GB PowerColor 6950 for $150. That card would run all over both the 6850 and the 460.

OP, again keep your eyes open. You should be able to find a terrific deal as we edge ever closer to the release of the 7XXX series (NVidia will be late to the party). My advice is not to buy anything unless you find a great deal. If this is a BF3 upgrade your looking for, you have time!
    
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u r quite wrong here...
its quite the opposite....
stock for stock hd6850 wins but when both oced to their extremes then gtx 460 has the upper hand....want proof
here
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/revie...locking-study/

it even rivals hd 6870...
as u will see from the article when all these 3 cards gtx 460,hd6850,hd6870 are oced to their max..the gtx 460 comes out top some of the times when compared to hd6870 and beats hd6850 completely....


Edit: Did you even read your own link? The HD 6850 won in 6 of 9 of those benches, only losing in Lost Planet, Star Craft, and Unigine Heaven, and won by wider margin as resolution and detail settings were increased. That 460 was even clocked at nearly 900 core!

/thread.

Proof?

I'd be happy to compare benches between your GTX 460 and my HD 6850.

Or if that's too much for you to bother:

See how many recent GTX 460 single or SLI benchmark that beats my HD 6850. There are plenty of databases available for your search, including HWBOT and ORB.

But if you still are not convinced, you may compare statistical data (direct from my GPU-Z of both cards):

GTX 460 1GB Stock: 21.6 GP/s, 37.8 GT/s, 115.2 GB/s, and 907.2 GFLOPS.

HD 6850 Stock: 24.8 GP/s, 37.2 GT/s, 128.0 GB/s, and 1488 GFLOPS.

GTX 460 1GB @ 850/1000: 27.2 GP/s, 47.6 GT/s, 128.0 GB/s, and 1.142.4 GFLOPS

HD 6850 1GB @ 1000/1200: 32.0 GP/s, 48.0 GT/s, 153.6 GB/s, and 1920.0 GFLOPS

Really no comparison once OC'd, as my benchmarks between the cards have shown.




Edited by damric - 7/20/11 at 10:49pm
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thanks for the replies. so which one is really better at stock clocks? i will not overclock it yet since i have a not-so-powerful PSU and my processor is already clocked high. i don't know if it can power those cards & my OC'd processor at the same time. i don't wanna kill it. maybe yes 'cause im going to upgrade my PSU soon.

i live in the Philippines that's why it costs a little more.

also what do you guys mean by folding? sorry im new to these things.
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thanks for the replies. so which one is really better at stock clocks? i will not overclock it yet since i have a not-so-powerful PSU and my processor is already clocked high. i don't know if it can power those cards & my OC'd processor at the same time. i don't wanna kill it. maybe yes 'cause im going to upgrade my PSU soon.

i live in the Philippines that's why it costs a little more.

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Edit: Did you even read your own link? The HD 6850 won in most of those benches, and won by wider margin as resolution and detail settings were increased. That 460 was even clocked at nearly 900 core!
/thread.

Proof?

I'd be happy to compare benches between your GTX 460 and my HD 6850.

Or if that's too much for you to bother:

See how many recent GTX 460 single or SLI benchmark that beats my HD 6850. There are plenty of databases available for your search, including HWBOT and ORB.

But if you still are not convinced, you may compare statistical data (direct from my GPU-Z of both cards):

GTX 460 1GB Stock: 21.6 GP/s, 37.8 GT/s, 115.2 GB/s, and 907.2 GFLOPS.

HD 6850 Stock: 24.8 GP/s, 37.2 GT/s, 128.0 GB/s, and 1488 GFLOPS.

GTX 460 1GB @ 850/1000: 27.2 GP/s, 47.6 GT/s, 128.0 GB/s, and 1.142.4 GFLOPS

HD 6850 1GB @ 1000/1200: 32.0 GP/s, 48.0 GT/s, 153.6 GB/s, and 1920.0 GFLOPS

Really no comparison once OC'd, as my benchmarks between the cards have shown.



see the text i highlighted....no need to fight here...u can see the link i provided...
and btw why r u running the gtx 460 at 850 mhz..
most of the gtx 460's can do 900mhz pretty easily......and with more cooling 950 is also possible.....its unfair to oc the hd6850 more and then comparing the results......


EDIT: maybe u did not read the link correctly....see again...gtx 460 is winning most of the times....

although im ready to agree that its an old review and the latest drivers might have changed things a bit.....
Edited by ghost_z - 7/20/11 at 10:54pm
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thanks for the replies. so which one is really better at stock clocks? i will not overclock it yet since i have a not-so-powerful PSU and my processor is already clocked high. i don't know if it can power those cards & my OC'd processor at the same time. i don't wanna kill it. maybe yes 'cause im going to upgrade my PSU soon.

i live in the Philippines that's why it costs a little more.

also what do you guys mean by folding? sorry im new to these things.
for stock performance get the hd6850.....
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