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Right now, llano is faster than the CPU and GPU combination the 360 currently has, but not by much really.

It'd be interesting to see how much performance future parts of fusion can muster and what the new system from M$ will eventually use.

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Nintendo

Microsoft

Sony ?
It'd be interesting what route sony takes. They could either stick with Nvidia to make it easier on their engineers and existing partnered devs, however that might lead to another $599 launch. In terms of price and efficiency, fusion walks and M$ will probably have the price advantage for the base console one again.
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what happened to 360 getting an update to its optical drive or medium?
That already happened via a dashboard update. All it did was give future games access to another gigabyte of space on the disc that was previously reserved for other things.
    
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Not true... Consoles compare to a high-spec PC of that time. Not sure what history you're speaking of.
Sorry, I got to thinking about the PS3 and how it's GPU was over a year old by release.

I suppose the original 360 was pretty timely.
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Put it this way, the next XBOX was rumored in April to be shipping in a year or two with a 4000-series AMD GPU. Which would you prefer? A recent AMPD APU, or a 3-4 year old GPU?
I'd rather have an HD4870 than an HD6550D, when it comes to gaming. One's a mid-range GPU, the other's a low-end budget part. Doesn't mean that the HD6550D isn't exciting in many ways and has its uses, but raw power trumps smaller process size.
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If true then this is good for AMD.
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Right now, llano is faster than the CPU and GPU combination the 360 currently has, but not by much really.

It'd be interesting to see how much performance future parts of fusion can muster and what the new system from M$ will eventually use.



It'd be interesting what route sony takes. They could either stick with Nvidia to make it easier on their engineers and existing partnered devs, however that might lead to another $599 launch. In terms of price and efficiency, fusion walks and M$ will probably have the price advantage for the base console one again.
The HD6550D walks all over the X1900 that the Xenos core is based on. The 360 gets a semi-free ride because of the 10MB eDRAM and co-processor tucked into it. Implement that technology into the 6550D and you may get something special. I doubt it would compare to even an HD5770/6770, at least until programmers get to to-the-metal development; but at least it would be a major step up.
post #27 of 88
The Xbox 360 GPU was basically the fastest GPU when it was released (for a few months at least). I wonder if the next Xbox will have similar relative performance compared to current GPUs. Maybe not.
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I dont see them using the very top of the line cards on release because 1) they take time to develope the systems, and new cards come out and 2) top of the line cards have horrible performance/$ which would drive up the price of the systems insanely.

That said, the cards they do use are utilized MUCH better on a console than they would be on a PC because they have a dedicated purpose. The games are coded knowing that the specific hardware will be used, and utilize it much more efficiently. It is also why they have seemingly low RAM compared to computers. To run a game on a computer, you need to have enough RAM for the game to use AND for the OS/any programs in the background to be running at the same time. The console has its RAM almost entirely dedicated to the game.
    
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I'd rather have an HD4870 than an HD6550D, when it comes to gaming. One's a mid-range GPU, the other's a low-end budget part. Doesn't mean that the HD6550D isn't exciting in many ways and has its uses, but raw power trumps smaller process size.
Well, I think Trinity will have a better GPU than Llano in addition to whatever boast Bulldozer cores are over Stars cores.
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You must not upgrade much, eh?
He speaks the truth.

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I agree.
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