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Originally Posted by CorsairGeorge;14302599 
The stock H80/H100 fans beat the AP-15s at the same RPM - that they're capable of going to a higher RPM is just a benefit to those who want the extra performance. Like those who buy AP-29s.

The stock H80/H100 fans @ 2600 RPM also outperform the AP-29s @ 3000 RPM when it comes to static pressure, with similar airflow.

I gotta see this! ^ Thats awesome. How are they noise wise?
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Originally Posted by Majin SSJ Eric;14302654 
Dude, there's a dedicated H80 thread here that has several tests posted on it including a direct comparison to a D14 done by an OCN member. The H80 is a very good cooler, there is no need for you to bag on it just because you have a D14. Some of us have high-profile RAM you know... rolleyes.gif

http://www.overclock.net/water-cooling/1056539-corsair-h80-performance-update-5-a-42.html#post14190843

Not bagging on the H80, just analyzing things as I see them. I know there are people who don't want a large cooler and the H80 will be great for them. Everything in the OP is my opinion. To ME, the results were disappointing for the reasons I listed, and you are free to look at the data yourself and agree or disagree smile.gif
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post #13 of 27
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Originally Posted by CanadianReaper7;14302034 
I hate to hijack another HXX thread, but the h50/70/80/even the 100 are comparable to high end air coolers... in that they are a waste of time when you want very good cooling performance. They are typically more expensive, and at the cost of a h100 @ 160$ - you could get a RS240 RASA kit if you are willing to put in a little time to assemble and maintain it.

The H80 performance above isn't impressive.

I also hate to reply to another hijacked HXX thread post but...

No one has ever claimed the H series was a full custom water loop. Why do people still harp on about this?

We know the H series is comparable to high end coolers... its an alternative cooling system.

How is it possible to make any claims around the H100 when it hasnt been reviewed or even hit the shops yet?

Not everyone wants a full custom loop, not everyone wants a ton of metal hanging off their mobo...

These are all issues we have heard since the H50 came out and guess what? People are still buying them.

Thanks for pointing them out thought... again smile.gif
post #14 of 27
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Originally Posted by 996gt2;14302710 
Not bagging on the H80, just analyzing things as I see them. I know there are people who don't want a large cooler and the H80 will be great for them. Everything in the OP is my opinion. To ME, the results were disappointing for the reasons I listed, and you are free to look at the data yourself and agree or disagree smile.gif

An air cooler, hating on a water cooler in a water thread rolleyes.gif

I think you should have picked a more neutral section. Here you're just asking for a fight wink.gif
post #15 of 27
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Originally Posted by wermad;14302763 
An air cooler, hating on a water cooler in a water thread rolleyes.gif

I think you should have picked a more neutral section. Here you're just asking for a fight wink.gif

I think I analyzed things pretty objectively in my OP. Everything I posted is based upon available data from relatively popular hardware review sites. Now, whether H-series owners choose to interpret it as flamebait is up to them wink.gif
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post #16 of 27
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Originally Posted by 996gt2;14302781 
I think I analyzed things pretty objectively in my OP. Everything I posted is based upon available data from relatively popular hardware review sites. Now, whether H-series owners choose to interpret it as flamebait is up to them wink.gif

I think it was a good post, relatively objective and I welcome it. Nicely done thumb.gif

BTW, my previous post was not directed at the OP...
Edited by Sethy666 - 7/21/11 at 10:04pm
post #17 of 27
There are a lot of truths in the original post. I'll say this perfectly clearly.

The laws of physics are pretty strong, and when it comes to heat exchange, a giant 3lb hunk of copper and aluminum has a huge headstart over something half its mass.

The Hydro Series was envisioned as an alternative to high-end aircoolers, with similar or better performance, and tons of headroom.

The H80 performs similarly to the D14 on the Balanced mode, and is just a little bit louder. But it has a few other benefits. It fits in just about any case. It doesn't overlap your RAM slots so you can use any memory you want. It takes up less room inside the case so you can still work around the CPU socket. And it doesn't put all its weight on the CPU socket, where it could damage the motherboard during shipping or possibly cause microfractures in the PCB causing difficult-to-pinpoint stabilty issues.

But these are just side-effects of the Hydro series products. Realistically, it's totally cool if you'd rather have an aircooler. Aircooling technology is pretty good, and if you don't mind the huge size, then they can provide good performance, too.

I'm biased, of course. I would never go back to an aircooler after using an H50 for the past 2 years. I just installed my H100 prototype today. I like the look and usability a lot more with the Hydro series than my old TRUE 120. But I totally understand if people feel differently.

No product is perfect for everyone. But the sales of the Hydro series speak for themselves - a lot of people don't want giant heatsinks in their case if they can get similar or better performance from an all-in-one watercooler. So I think there's enough room in the market for us and the other guys.
post #18 of 27
These all in one coolers are NOT superior to the humongous silver arrow or the noctua if you look at price/performance.

Go with the big coolers if you want better cooling solution and the best bang for your money.

Go with the all in one cooler if you have the money for the better look that will give you fairly close performance to the high end air coolers.

[Edit] the above post pretty much summed it all up. I'm not sure about the H100 series but the other series are not better than silver arrow or noctua.
Edited by van13330gg - 7/21/11 at 10:59pm
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post #19 of 27
The closed loops fall neatly between aircoolers and a custom loops. Its not a massive heatsink with fans, nor is it a complexity of tubes, rads, and blocks. Some people want the best of both worlds: great temps without the complexities of a custom loop and the size of an aircooler.
post #20 of 27
23c @ stock load. Mother of god.

So your saying that the best CPU Cooler to get right now is an H80?
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