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Guitar Hero stands as one of the most spectacular rise-and-fall stories in the history of the videogame industry. It single-handedly created what was briefly the most popular genre on the market, led Activision to spend nearly $100 million to acquire publisher RedOctane in 2007, and then as suddenly as it had appeared, it was gone. Activision closed down RedOctane in early 2010 and announced the end of the Guitar Hero franchise a year later. It's enough to make a person wonder, what the hell happened?
Or maybe it was because, you know, you flooded the market with absolute crap?

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news..._campaign=auto
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What happened was the day Harmonix left, so did all the innovation. Apart from the setlist of Guitar Hero 3, nothing good came from the Guitar Hero camp after that.

Rock Band, on the other hand, has gone from strength to strength - RB3 is a truly excellent game, full of features and with a really good business model. If you want an example of DLC being done right, look here.

Personally, I'd rather not see Guitar Hero come back. As much as competition is good, Harmonix have done more without competition than GH ever did. I've spent a lot of money on Rock Band, and I feel every penny was worth it. The pro modes are amazing (I'm one of around 1500 Squier owners outside the USA), the game is, in general, very good - and they are doing the exact opposite of what Guitar Hero did. They made a polished, well made game with lots of features, and are not releasing a sequel any time soon - RB3 is here to stay for some time, and they are continuing to support it with DLC. They are one of the few studios, alongside Valve and a few others, who I truly feel are doing what they believe is good for the games, not just their wallets (fortunately the two seem to go hand in hand).

Harmonix have done really well with Dance Central too - which I hear is also a great game, although not really my kind of thing.
Edited by lattyware - 7/21/11 at 11:48am
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Or maybe it was because, you know, you flooded the market with absolute crap?

couldn't have said it better myself
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The games were fun, but they were just milking it, people got bored.
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Rock Band killed Guitar Hero.
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I kind of read that title wrong.. I thought he gave somebody the finger.. or you know..
    
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I never understood the appeal of those games. My roommate brought home Rock band 2 a few years ago and it was fun for a couple days but I don't think I even played it for a week. It was really annoying because he would always leave his wireless guitar on overnight and drain the batteries. He would steal the batteries out of all the remotes and then drain those the next night...
    
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I promised myself I wasn't going to log in anymore since Joe was banned but I hate seeing misinformation about this crap so I thought I'd share.

Everybody read this.

http://www.the-ghetto.org/content/rh...f-level-design

Ghetto-overlord is an extremely good researcher (most of his articles start at the very beginning of the given genre to show how things progressed and changed) and video game blogger who beat this article to the punch over a year ago. In it you'll find some surprising things, aside from the obvious "derp market got flooded" argument.
Edited by grmnasasin0227 - 7/21/11 at 12:17pm
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I promised myself I wasn't going to log in anymore since Joe was banned but I hate seeing misinformation about this crap so I thought I'd share.

Everybody read this.

http://www.the-ghetto.org/content/rh...f-level-design

Ghetto-overlord is an extremely good researcher (most of his articles start at the very beginning of the given genre to show how things progressed and changed) and video game blogger who beat this article to the punch over a year ago. In it you'll find some surprising things, aside from the obvious "derp market got flooded" argument.
I think that a lot of that is wrong. The idea that you have to spice up a song to make it interesting in a game is wrong. People want to play the original version of a song that they know and love. Yes, not every moment in pure action, but anyone producing a good film, book, piece of music or game knows that it's about highs and lows, not just constant high action.

Rock Band has got it right, they make it so that you are playing the song. On normal modes, you are playing one note for every note played, on pro mode, you are playing the full song note for note, within the limitations of the instrument. That makes it feel authentic, that makes it feel fun. The enjoyment is when you nail a section and feel that thrill when you hear that awesome bit ring out.
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Rock Band killed Guitar Hero.
Guitar Hero/Activision killed Guitar Hero. Too many games in too short a time frame with little innovation after GHIII. They released something like 12 or 15 games for various systems over the course of ~5 years.
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