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Everything is an improvement over BF2, both from a games developer perspective and 'FPS pseudo-realism' perspective. Oh DW, I played over 1200 hours on BF2 and competed competitively in it but really, you have to think about the 'must appeal to everyone factor'. People have to realise that gaming isn't just about the 'hardcore gamers' anymore. It hasn't been since the days of Quake.
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qomo rose has no match .
qomo rose was laborious and distracted you from the gameplay. BF1942 with the F1, F2 etc.. commands was even more shocking. Honestly BF2 lovers, stop going into nostalgia trips and think about it logically.
post #103 of 210
lol you are a great plant
you feel for the dev lol and why must it appeal to everyone factor?
come on give me a break
you played less bf then me but enough to know we are stuck with bc3 now.
dumbed down game not that bf2 was not nerfed alot aswell but this just seems to scream "buy cod we tried to copy that.

if i said i was not buying it i would be a lair thuo.

funny you said qrose was hard to use lol
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forget hc mode( you could get rid of your crosshair or any icon within the settings in bf2)give us old school bf2 mode .and jeez show us wake...if you dont have wake i go full blown troll lol j/k
Edited by cowie - 7/22/11 at 4:17am
post #104 of 210
[quote=cowie;14304837]lol you are a great plant
you feel for the dev lol and why must it appeal to everyone factor?[\\quote]

BC2facepalm.jpg

Because

A) Attracts and importantly, keeps, the biggest gameplay audience

B) Money!

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come on give me a break
you played less bf then me but enough to know we are stuck with bc3 now.
dumbed down game not that bf2 was not nerfed alot aswell but this just seems to scream "buy cod we tried to copy that.
Apart from hardcore mode (which is far from original), nothing is alike.

I didn't say qrose was hard to use, but more harder to use and it distracted you from the gameplay.
post #105 of 210
Umm? as a gamer why do you care about money?
the best games ever were not made to make money,its when they are you know they are finished....as is bc.... er bf3..... but i hope not
show me wake then i know if it was all money or not.
to make money you make a good game very simple...it does not even need promoter plants if its a good game.
post #106 of 210
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'Spotting the BF way' was laborious to say the least people...

As much as I dislike 'Q spam', it's much much easier and with the BF3 audio, more realistic.
It's all good to go into nostalgia mode but think about it without the emotional bias.
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Everything is an improvement over BF2, both from a games developer perspective and 'FPS pseudo-realism' perspective. Oh DW, I played over 1200 hours on BF2 and competed competitively in it but really, you have to think about the 'must appeal to everyone factor'. People have to realise that gaming isn't just about the 'hardcore gamers' anymore. It hasn't been since the days of Quake.
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qomo rose was laborious and distracted you from the gameplay. BF1942 with the F1, F2 etc.. commands was even more shocking. Honestly BF2 lovers, stop going into nostalgia trips and think about it logically.
Thank you... it is quite ridiculous how people rationalize things.

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lol you are a great plant
you feel for the dev lol and why must it appeal to everyone factor?
come on give me a break
you played less bf then me but enough to know we are stuck with bc3 now.
dumbed down game not that bf2 was not nerfed alot aswell but this just seems to scream "buy cod we tried to copy that.

if i said i was not buying it i would be a lair thuo.

funny you said qrose was hard to use lol
*
forget hc mode( you could get rid of your crosshair or any icon within the settings in bf2)give us old school bf2 mode .and jeez show us wake...if you dont have wake i go full blown troll lol j/k
Could you please learn to string your sentences/thoughts together.... I didn't even want to read what you said just because of how it was formatted.

With that said, get a grip...this isn't 2005 it's 2011. The technology now lets us have shinier things and if you think that's "conforming" to Call of Duty or whatever you're trying to convey you're just being ridiculous. Furthermore, I'm not sure what you were expecting... it's using the Frostbite 2.0 engine, so BC2's Frostbite was practically a test-bed for BF3. Will it be exactly like the old BF2? No... of course not, 6 years brings a lot of progress.

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Also, I'm not quite so sure how you guys can take to being critical about it.

1. It's ALPHA, which means that its the roughest possible cut of what the game will actually be like.

2. There's no indicator of what size maps or how many people are playing. I didnt see a scoreboard once in the whole video. These could very well be the 16 player maps we're seeing with far fewer than that many players actually in-game, so all of the action is condensed in a very small area. It's already been said that many of the maps will be larger than BF2 maps (which makes them larger than BC2 maps by default), so we're obviously not seeing the full scale.

3. It was a video montage made by a guy obviously intending to make a frag video and nothing else. Zero commentary, zero substance.

4. People crying hit reg, knifing, contrast, sniper reticle, etc, etc please refer to (1.).

5. Why is having Rush Mode an issue? Because BC2 had rush that makes it a horrible addition? BF3 will also have conquest. Play what you want to play.

6. OMG it looks like BC2...

BC2 - Frostbite
BF3 - Frostbite 2.0

...not sure why everyone is surprised.
Edited by Doogiehouser - 7/22/11 at 4:46am
post #107 of 210
The game looks boring to be honest.

How can you set charges while looking away from it? Even CS 1.6 does not let you do that.
post #108 of 210
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The game looks boring to be honest.

How can you set charges while looking away from it? Even CS 1.6 does not let you do that.
Looks pretty great to me for a game that's in closed Alpha testing
post #109 of 210
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The game looks boring to be honest.

How can you set charges while looking away from it? Even CS 1.6 does not let you do that.

How is it boring?
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Umm what? I don't know if your english is bad or what, but what are you trying to say?

Hardcore breaks the game? Hardcore is unbalanced? How? Hardcore doesn't break anything. It's more fun because people can't run around and hip shoot.

CoD is a game for casuals, I know it has hardcore mode. That doesn't change the fact it's the favorite of young teens and fratboys. Anyone who disagrees must be playing with everyone's mics muted.
First of all, I hate cod.

With that out of the way, it is my honest opinion that hardcore breaks the game. Think about it.

Let's take BC2 for example, in HC you'll die from one bolt action sniper bullet to any part of the body. Yeah sure it might be realistic but it surely as hell isn't meant to be in the game. Bolt action rifles actually require some skill in softcore and are much better balanced than in HC. HC also breaks stuff like motion mines, almost totally useless when playing HC.

Also imho it's much easier to hip fire and spray in HC. It takes less bullets to kill someone and you really don't need any crosshair in the center of the screen to know where you're shooting. It becomes easier and a more effective method of killing.

In hardcore the guy who shoots first in a 1 on 1 shootout also has a much bigger chance to win the fight than in softcore. Because you need more bullets to kill you have to able to aim and shoot accurately for longer periods of time. Makes it more skill oriented than HC.

etc.

just my take at it. I can understand that you might play HC because it's better for you but it's just that I see too many kids playing HC just because the name is hardcore and they think it's cool and realistic. It's a BF game, it's not meant to be realistic.
 
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