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It IS late. Since when is "August/September" part of Q2?
I believe the only official release date given was 2011. Q2 was speculation. I could be wrong.
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It IS late. Since when is "August/September" part of Q2?
Q2 was speculation.
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I believe the only official release date given was 2011. Q2 was speculation. I could be wrong.
Correct
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post #63 of 144
Good news! The comic book release by AMD should have made it pretty well apparent that it would be soon though. Drumming up marketing hype, is always a good sign.

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*snip* I was going to wait for Bulldozer, but only if they actually called it Bulldozer. The FX thing - it reminds me too much of previous garbage, like Intel's SX gorbachev, all weak and inferior in all respects...

Okaaay, I'm not understanding your logic here. FX was the bad boy on the block back when they used the name last. Iirc, P4's required double the clock speed to manage roughly equal throughput. C2D was the following generation, which the original Phenom's had nothing for, retort wise. If anything, AMD bringing back the FX marque should be at least a decent indicator of performance.
Edited by Lucky 13 SpeedShop - 7/22/11 at 12:53pm
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Q2 was speculation.

Correct
Q2 wasn't speculation ... amd first announced bulldozer for Q2 its been plastered everywhere ....
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What's the point? It's so late that Intel's gonna release SB-ex and IB not long after, and the estimated performance would just be between 2600k and 980x? Also it's not even priced competitively.
 
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What's the point? It's so late that Intel's gonna release SB-ex and IB not long after, and the estimated performance would just be between 2600k and 980x? Also it's not even priced competitively.
For one, it's not meant to compete against SB-E. Two, Enhanced Bulldozer is to compete with IB. Three, if it falls between 2600k and 980x performance and its priced at 329, would that not be priced correct giving the 2600k is just over $300? Four, stop trying to troll this thread don't need anymore of it.
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Llano shipped for revenue in Q1 2011 and launched the end of june


Just because its been shipped doesn't mean its going to launch right away. Hopefully it won't take as long for Bulldozer to launch (compared to Llano)
Given this fact, and the fact that BD will be out in retail next month points to the (speculation) of BD being shipped in June? Maybe?
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Given this fact, and the fact that BD will be out in retail next month points to the (speculation) of BD being shipped in June? Maybe?

but amd did say bulldozer was pushed back ....


at least the desktop variant ....


so it wasnt released or shipped Q2 for revenue or anything that you are trying to hint at
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Q2 wasn't speculation ... amd first announced bulldozer for Q2 its been plastered everywhere ....
Q2 was speculation

The Zambezi "motherboard" came out (It was announced to come out early since the 890FX-990FX is just a new socket and new features(SLi))

The Zambezi "CPU" were never announced for 1H 2011

If you looked up the road map(Internal) from 2010 it clearly states 2H 2011 for
"Zambezi"

Even in 2008 it says 2011



Bulldozer which is actually Orochi was never delayed

2H means 2nd Half
if people took that for 2Q...it is their fault
Edited by Seronx - 7/22/11 at 2:33pm
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Originally Posted by Seronx View Post
Q2 was speculation

The Zambezi "motherboard" came out (It was announced to come out early since the 890FX-990FX is just a new socket and new features(SLi))

The Zambezi "CPU" were never announced for 1H 2011

If you looked up the road map(Internal) from 2010 it clearly states 2H 2011 for
"Zambezi"

Even in 2008 it says 2011



Bulldozer which is actually Orochi was never delayed

2H means 2nd Half
if people took that for 2Q...it is their fault
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Today AMD hosted our annual Financial Analyst Day in our Sunnyvale, CA headquarters. The Financial Analyst Day is our opportunity to give the financial community a peek into what next year (and the year after) have in store for AMD. As you can imagine, “Bulldozer” was a key topic for discussion, both in the main session as well as the server breakout.

To make sure that all of you are caught up on the latest news, here’s a summary of what we disclosed to the analysts:

Product Schedules – This is the most asked question that I get. Today we gave granularity down to the quarter. We expect to launch the client version of “Bulldozer” (code named “Zambezi”) in Q2 2011. The server products (“Interlagos” and “Valencia”) will first begin production in Q2 2011, and we expect to launch them in Q3 2011.

Die size – Because we are moving to a 32nm process we will be delivering these products in a smaller die than current 45nm products. This is good news for both the yields and manufacturability as well as the power. Part of the beauty of the “Bulldozer” core is that it allows for smaller overall die space. As a matter of fact, we are able to put 8 total cores in a piece of silicon that is smaller than our current 6-core dies.

8-core G34 Server Model – Previous we have talked about 16-core and 12-core models but customer discussions over the past year have convinced us that there is also a need for an 8-core G34 part. This part will feature higher clock speed and four channels of memory. It will be a very interesting part for certain financial and HPC applications that require a high clock speed as well as massive memory bandwidth.

L2 and L3 cache – I have been saying for a long time that we would hold cache details until launch, but there were some compelling reasons to include this information in some of the compiler updates. Having the proper cache sizes helps in the optimization of applications, so we decided that helping our customers and ISV partners optimize ahead of the release outweighed the competitive concerns. Each module will have a massive 2MB L2 cache for the 2 integer cores to share and you’ll see an 8MB L3 cache shared per die (16MB on the 16-core “Interlagos” processor.)

Turbo CORE – We have disclosed that we would include AMD Turbo CORE technology in the past, so this should not be a surprise to anyone. But what is news is the uplift – up to 500MHz with all cores fully utilized. Today’s implementations of boost technology can push up the clock speed of a couple of cores when the others are idle, but with our new version of Turbo CORE you’ll see full core boost, meaning an extra 500MHz across all 16 threads for most workloads.

C6 power state – Since Bulldozer is designed to fit into the same power/thermal envelope as our current AMD Opteron™ 6100/4100 series processors we obviously have some new power tricks up our sleeve. One of these is the new CC6 power state, which powers down an entire module when it is idle. That is just one of the new power innovations that you’ll see with Bulldozer-based processors.

Memory Throughput increase – We have talked about greater memory throughput for the newly redesigned memory controller, but today we put some numbers behind that statement. We are anticipating about a 50% increase in memory throughput with our new “Bulldozer” integrated memory controller. About 30% of that increase is from enhancements to the circuits and designs. The other 20% is from support of higher speed memory. I’ll leave memory speeds for launch, we need some secrets, right?

That should catch you up with what we disclosed today.

So, what is left? Well, there are still a lot of details left that we are not sharing at this point. With such a revolutionary design there are plenty of other secrets left.

And, while I am at it, let me pre-empt the 3,715 questions and emails I will receive this week. We never disclose information such as the actual launch dates, benchmarks, partner support, detailed memory support, pricing (as well as some other detailed product specs), until launch, so please be patient.
http://www.vortez.net/news_story/amd...bulldozer.html

http://blogs.amd.com/work/2010/11/09...l-analyst-day/
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