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Mmmmm NBA nor FEAR are Steamworks games; you can install and play those standalone without Steam. That's what I've been getting at: a Steamworks games means the game HAS to be activated on Steam to be played. You can't just pop in the physical CD and install and play without ever going through Steam (unless I'm mistaken on that detail and then that would render my entire argument wrong) I'm not sure about AVP as it came out in the era where I was already buying everything through Steam.




Gotcha, ok now. So I was wrong on the VAC piece, but games that are on Steam are not automatically Steamworks. Back to the original debate: the list of ~80+ games on Valve's own site are not all Steamworks.
http://forums.steampowered.com/forum....php?t=1933190

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Yeah Steamworks titles do not need to use VAC. They are offered VAC, but they don't need to. For example, some TF2 servers have VAC disabled and just use their own Anti-cheat.
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Name one. That's all I'm asking of you. Name a single one.
Ok, give me a minute I'm at work and I'll post a few.

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FEAR THREE, yes. Not FEAR.
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Ok, give me a minute I'm at work and I'll post a few.
Don't bother. You won't find any.
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Ok, give me a minute I'm at work and I'll post a few.



FEAR THREE, yes. Not FEAR.
The original FEAR isnt on that list.

FEAR 2 & 3 are because they require steam as a DRM. Thats why you can activate them on steam... -_-
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The original FEAR isnt on that list.

FEAR 2 & 3 are because they require steam as a DRM. Thats why you can activate them on steam... -_-
Correct. Steam DRM is a prime feature of Steamworks.

Now let's take a looksee at that list, I'll grab some of the most popular titles -

Aliens vs. Predator (2010 Release) CD Keys in this format: 1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7-JK8LM-NOP9Q - Steamworks.
Civilization V CD Keys in this format: 1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7-JK8LM-NOP9Q - Steamworks.
Duke Nukem Forever CD Keys in this format: 1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7-JK8LM-NOP9Q - Steamworks.
F.E.A.R. 3 CD Keys in this format: 1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7 - Steamworks.
Mafia 2 CD Keys in this format: 1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7-JK8LM-NOP9Q - Steamworks.
Magicka CD Keys in this format: 1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7-JK8LM-NOP9Q - Steamworks.

All are retail. All are Steamworks.
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Games on the list that aren't Steamworks (from what I found on them):

Ragdoll Kung Fu
The Ship
GTI Racing
Dark Messiah
RACE
Prey - Perfect example, it's not even SOLD on Steam and its physical retail serial key can be registered onto Steam.
Serious Sam
Saints Row 2
Silent Hill Homecoming
Star Trek Online

Plenty more than I'm mixing and matching between lists but it's definitely not "just one out of the bunch"

Football Manager 2009
Mount & Blade
X³: Terran Conflict
MLB Front Office Manager
Even The Witcher 2.
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Games on the list that aren't Steamworks (from what I found on them):

Ragdoll Kung Fu
The Ship
GTI Racing
Dark Messiah
RACE
Prey
Serious Sam
Saints Row 2
Silent Hill Homecoming
Star Trek Online

Plenty more than I'm mixing and matching between lists but it's definitely not "just one out of the bunch"

Football Manager 2009
Mount & Blade
Even The Witcher 2.
I picked the most popular game i saw on their and did a check

first game i saw, checked and yes its on steam
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=346995
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From the Direct2Drive Saints Row 2 sale page -
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This title installs and requires STEAM to play.
Steamworks.

Dark Messiah Direct2Drive page -
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This title installs and requires a 3rd party download to play.
Steamworks.

You get the point.
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Keep going, 2 down.

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I hate it when people are wrong and they just won't admit it.

F.E.A.R. 3 is a Steamworks title. It has multiplayer. It does not use VAC.
I know you said that after I admitted I was wrong about VAC, but I'm telling you now I'm not that type. Yes, you found Dark Messiah is Steamworks (I thought it was, it's a Source engine game) and Saints Row 2 (the specs I saw for it must have been old)
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