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Hey all, first time posting here. Haven't built a desktop in like 7 years, lol... and wow have I been having a hell of a time getting this thing going. 3 DOA PSUs (2 of them OCZModXStream 700W, 1 Corsair TX750W V2)... well the corsair wasn't DOA but did die after about 7 hours of light use.

Anyway.

I have multiple questions to ask. Keep in mind that I've probably spent a good 40-50 hours studying overclocking in general as well as these issues I'm having. I did try, and I'm just not getting the answers. I'd rather not make multiple threads like a total jack*ss so itll be allllllll in one....

1) My 570, in the uppermost PCI-e slot, is reporting in both GPU-Z and CPU-Z to run at PCI-e x4 v2.0. They both also indicate support for x16. I have...

a) Turned off windows power save and set everything to max performance (have quadruple checked this - PCI-E Link State Management is set to "max performance").
b) Tried the card on 2 different motherboards (1st MSI P67-GD65A, 2nd ASRock P67 Extreme 4 B3).
c) Tried different PSUs - while the Corsair 750W (62A on 12v) still worked, and now my Antec 550W (56A on 12v).
c) Clean install of Windows 7 x64 on the MSI board, on the ASRock board I did a driver wipe with NFR before re-installing the most recent drivers for the 570.
d) Updated Intel INF drivers
e) Updated Geforce 570 drivers (275.33)
f) Updated BIOS on the MSI board, also checked for correct settings (let me know if there is anything not standard I might have missed)
g) Disabled USB 3.0 and SataIII in BIOS (as I understand this should affect Sandy Bridge but I did it anyway)
h) Tried the Geforce 570 card in the other PCI-e slots and still get @x4 v2.0.

The interesting part is that I am getting a score with 3DMark11 of P5467. Pretty standard score as far as I'm seeing.... however, the difference between x4 and x16 is 5% correct? Not enough to conclude from the benchmark that it actually is working at x16.

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2) VDDC Current in GPU-Z. What exactly is this a measurement of? It reports 56A max from a single 570 card during a video stress test (~45A for the most part however). My PSU can only supply 56A max... I also read in several articles / studies people did to measure power draw that the 570 card used about 18A and around 200W during load. For 570 SLI it was around 37A. Where is this 56A coming from?

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3) "Capacitor whine": this one really confused me and I'm only posting because of the nature of it. I know its "normal" but... at everything stock settings, I am ONLY getting the high pitch squealing noise if I run ATITool. Any other stress test or benchmark, no noise, even at 100% load. Noise is faint but audible. This is on the 550W PSU which is a little old but working great (Antec). Another odd problem is that I can actually hear the exact same whine IN my headphones if I plug them into the front panel. The front panel audio connects to the MB right above the PSU, so I'm thinking the PSU has something to do with it. If I plug my headphones into the rear panel audio jack, I hear nothing.

I'm confused how I can hear it through my headphones as well as when I'm near my case... but more importantly I don't understand why it only happens with ATI Tool.
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3 Dead PSUs... There could be a problem with your motherboard that faulted out the PCIe slot.

As for coil whine, it's perfectly normal under unusual high loads like Excessive Framerates. ATI Tool is one such thing where it just spams frames at the card. Typically staying under 140 FPS is enough to prevent Coil Whine in most games.
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What Apocalypse said about Coil Whine ... it should only happen when FPS is uber-high, like with ATI tool. V-Sync will get rid of it entirely, as will just running things at high enough settings to not get super-high FPS.

AFA VDDC measurement goes, I'm not entirely certain, but I'd say there's quite a reasonable chance that it reflects the amperage at the voltage your core is actually running at (i.e. somewhere around 1V). It's clearly not a 12V amperage measurement or your card would be in flames

AFA the speed of the PCI-EX slot goes, are you making sure to check GPU-Z while you have a 3d app running, such as a benchmark in Windowed mode? Because just like the card will do when the core isn't under load, the board will 'downclock' the PCI-Ex slots to save power. EDIT: And I see now you say you disabled it, but it may not be disabled ... def. check w/a 3d app running.

Edit 2: And also ... I recommend using adaptive power management as your global setting, and only setting 'max performance' in the game profile for any specific games where they are downclocking and it's actually hurting your performance. My cards downclock all the time (mainly cause I use v-sync) but it doesn't affect my performance on any game except Dungeon Siege 3 ... I get lower clocks, less heat, higher GPU usage, and the same (60fps) on a whole bunch of easy-to-run games ... even some new stuff like DS2 and FONV will do this. I love that feature myself, as long as it works right
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Thanks so much guys, that is very helpful. I've never gotten that thorough of a response on my first post at any forum.

I am very curious still about the GPU-Z VDDC Current because I think it might shed some light on how the card works and uses power. I know its probably simple, but clearly I'm missing something.

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3 Dead PSUs... There could be a problem with your motherboard that faulted out the PCIe slot.
That's what I thought at first, but I tried 2 motherboards on clean Windows 7 install (well first MB was clean install). Same x4 problem. Everything else is working fine but I'm still confused.

As far as the PSUs... yeah... real unlucky. Thankfully Newegg has world class customer service, and thank GOD that I have a working PSU at home so I actually rule out a few things (like a short somewhere or something like that).

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AFA the speed of the PCI-EX slot goes, are you making sure to check GPU-Z while you have a 3d app running, such as a benchmark in Windowed mode? Because just like the card will do when the core isn't under load, the board will 'downclock' the PCI-Ex slots to save power. EDIT: And I see now you say you disabled it, but it may not be disabled ... def. check w/a 3d app running.
Yes, I did that first - I checked it while running Kombustor, OC Scanner and Furmark (I've since uninstalled Furmark). When I downloaded GPU-Z in fact, this was the first thing I noticed - when I'm not running 3D it will be at x4 v1.1, and when I flip on a 3D app like Kombustor it changes to v2.0. It does not change to x16 even after a minute of runtime.
    
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I know I am living up to the OCN stereotype and blaming the PSU. BUT!

The Whine I think ... Well in my case was the Voltage regulators, my 580 used to cry and cry with the OCZ modx 900watt.

When I put the new AX850 in its silent (its was water cooled even with the old psu so the whine was very audible)


Get that HX back and hopefully your good.
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