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I also just read SLI and Crossfire will give a lower min FPS when compared to a single comparable GPU, so the 570 is still in, maybe a 580. Going to the 590 is way to much for me right now. I guess my only things to really add are a good heatsink and look into dual HDD's.
SLI and Crossfire will scale approximately up to 97% while averaging aorund 90%. How does that sound ? 2x GTX 460's outperform the GTX 570 by around 15-20% PLUS cheaper.
Check out the benchmarks, really .. They are definitely worth atleast to consider.
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SLI and Crossfire will scale approximately up to 97% while averaging aorund 90%. How does that sound ? 2x GTX 460's outperform the GTX 570 by around 15-20% PLUS cheaper.
Check out the benchmarks, really .. They are definitely worth atleast to consider.
How often would I encounter micro stuttering, or any of the other problems involved with SLI? Wouldn't it be better to get a single 570 now, and SLI that down the road instead of buying whole new cards?
Edited by InfamousLegend - 7/22/11 at 5:07am
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Add an aftermarket cooler onto that, CM 212+ will do just fine.
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How often would I encounter micro stuttering, or any of the other problems involved with SLI?
Nvidia has "always" been ahead in the driver part and scaling part, however AMD's 6000-series have improved a lot.

Afaik, I have yet to find a recent (1 year) encounter with someone who had issues with micro stuttering and I have had zero problems with mine.

The issues should be very low.
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Wouldn't it be better to get a single 570 now, and SLI that down the road instead of buying whole new cards?
If you want future proofing, indeed.
However, if will take over two years, you may as well stick to max. performance now and buy another new card then. The technology is advancing incredible fast.
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I also just read SLI and Crossfire will give a lower min FPS when compared to a single comparable GPU, Is it really worth running two cards? I'll look into dual HDD's such as RAID but it sounds expensive, and what does it do exactly? I understand it can split read/write between two drives, so downloading and loading is quicker, but does it do anything else?

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They lower access times so the system will feel snappier, nowhere near as low as an SSD though

Its not expensive either, 2x1 TB F3's would be about $30 cheaper than the VR and would kill them in everything except access times, even then, they get pretty close
    
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They lower access times so the system will feel snappier, nowhere near as low as an SSD though

Its not expensive either, 2x1 TB F3's would be about $30 cheaper than the VR and would kill them in everything except access times, even then, they get pretty close
What about a Raid Controller, do I need one?

As for beating the VR in everything except access times, wouldn't it be better to use the VR then. I know access times are better unless you have to load larger programs, where faster read/write of RAID would come into play. Now wouldn't a VR beat it in everything except for maybe large games, and even then a bench would be needed to tell the difference wouldn't it?

I took my limited knowledge of CAS latency and applied it to VR vs F3 raid, so I hope I'm correct in what I said.
Edited by InfamousLegend - 7/22/11 at 5:24am
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you haven't made any mention of a monitor.

Also get some aftermarket cooling like a coolermaster 212+, it runs pretty silently and it cools well. You could go with the thermal paste given with it or some artic silver 5.

You haven't mentioned speakers or headphones, mice or keyboards though I assume you've got all that.

You really should consider bigger drives like the WD blacks 1-2 TB, you don't think you need that much space but once you realise how much you have you start to use it, trust me. I am not a harddrive person really but WD blacks do offer fairly good performance for the price but probably best to take someone else's advice on drives >.<

Price to performance wise you can't beat the 570 non-reference models or 6970 non-reference models. 580's are very expensive and not worth it imo.

You don't need such a big psu at all (anywhere near that big), so you could go with the Corsair gold rated HX750 and get nice clean power to overclock with

http://www.plugloadsolutions.com/80P...x?id=25&type=2

for Gold rating proof.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...0&Tpk=750%20HX

for some reason newegg says it's silver so I don't know what to think now.
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What about a Raid Controller, do I need one?
Nope ! Motherboards have the capability built in to do basic RAID's like 0 and 1. You'd only need a RAID controller for complex/very fast (north of 400MB's in my case) RAID arrays
    
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Which resolution will you be playing at ? 1080p ?
Edited by p4p3r - 7/22/11 at 5:27am
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