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A client gave me their laptop to try and sort out. It takes way too long to boot up and sits at just the background image of the desktop for 5 minutes or so until it finally loads the icons then about 2-5 minutes after that it finally becomes usable.

I ran CCleaner, Spybot, Malwarebytes, Defraggler, and went into MSconfig and unchecked everything for the startup programs. (the programs listed looked a lot different than what I see on my win 7 machines, maybe I just forgot how XP did things)

Anyway, after all that I maybe cut 10 seconds tops off of the boot time.

What am I missing/forgetting to get this computer to boot at a relatively decent speed?
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Malware, RAM defaults and HDD speed. RAM defaults if not very serious don't lead to BSODs, they can be corrected but they are slow. About the HDD one of my relative's Toshiba laptop slowed down to a crawl similar to what your problem. After benching the HDD the results were something like 30MB/s sequential read/write and over 20ms access time. Smart values were on yellow on HDTune, so a disk swap solved the slowdowns. Malware can also cause a slowdown if it loads a bunch of things at bootup, even if it has been removed as some files can be affected.

This is all I can think of, good luck debugging.
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what am i missing?
ssd
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The only thing out of those programs that will make a difference unless you have malware, is ccleaner.
NEVER use the wipe free space feature.
Always un-install any software you don't want first, then run a ccleaner.
Also, use its registry cleaner as well, and don't save a backup it never hurts anything.

After that, run a disk cleanup, then defrag.
When your defrag is done, open CMD and type in " chkdsk /r ".
Select "yes" then reboot. This will start a 5 stage index/registry repair that looks like a simple disk check but does so much more.

Then go into your msconfig and take out an unnessary startup programs.
There are some other things and programs like GameBoost that tweak your CPU's abilities tht can speed up OS performance as well as gaming performance.

An SSD solves all of these issues!
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post #5 of 16
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lol yea the laptop is a 3 year old company laptop, the SSD would cost more than it would to just buy a faster one XD. I'll try seeing if the HD is dying, and the chkdsk I forgot about that one, thanks.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ZTR1760 View Post
What am I missing/forgetting to get this computer to boot at a relatively decent speed?
Check the services that are running in msconfig as well tell it to hide all windows services and turn off crap they definetly don't need. Also I had the desktop issue with my netbook for a while and it turned out to be my virus scanner (MSE) and after turning that off windows booted in a couple seconds. I believe it's doing a scan of some sort or it's looking at the processes that are starting to make sure you're safe. Check what virus scanner they're using and if MSE tell it to do a quick scan. Also ctrl+alt+delete and see (while it's sitting on the desktop before loading the icons) if the processor or RAM usage are high.

TL;DR
1. turn off services in msconfig
2. check virus scanner
3. ctrl+alt+del on boot and check taskmgr

Just some things I would do if I were fixing it
    
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post #7 of 16
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Hahahahha uninstalling Symantec/Norton fixed it, now to install AVG or something.
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Hahahahha uninstalling Symantec/Norton fixed it, now to install AVG or something.
That's the first thing I would have done, glad you got it fixed.
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install MSE, its free, and it dosent lag you out and whatnot
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Originally Posted by amstech View Post
The only thing out of those programs that will make a difference unless you have malware, is ccleaner.
NEVER use the wipe free space feature.
Always un-install any software you don't want first, then run a ccleaner.
Also, use its registry cleaner as well, and don't save a backup it never hurts anything.

After that, run a disk cleanup, then defrag.
When your defrag is done, open CMD and type in " chkdsk /r ".
Select "yes" then reboot. This will start a 5 stage index/registry repair that looks like a simple disk check but does so much more.

Then go into your msconfig and take out an unnessary startup programs.
There are some other things and programs like GameBoost that tweak your CPU's abilities tht can speed up OS performance as well as gaming performance.

An SSD solves all of these issues!
http://oceanbluffcomputerservices.se...yCleaners.aspx

It's a placebo effect, reg cleaners don't work. They never have, they never will. Unless you are getting errors specifically from windows... Like oh, I don't know: "Error: registry crap". Otherwise it's moot, moot, and more moot.

Code:
Most of these registry keys are useless because your Windows registry is like a warehouse filled 
with books, where every program on your PC places its own book of settings and the only thing 
that reads it is the same program that adds the book [registry keys] in the first place – 
Windows doesn’t read these books or “care” about these third-party software’s settings.
I don't know why this scam is still around... [edit] I don't like getting articles like that so I'll see if I can find a better/more credible source. I'm sure I'll find one, though google has been flooded with reviews/crap opinions without any benchmarks/results.

[edit2] I also forgot to address the MS created registry cleaner. It was dated for 95/98 and supposedly worked for 2k. However it has been removed from their download center, wonder why? I also urge you to find out why they never released a new one? They could have when they did MSE, giving it the ability to clean the registry (would have helped marketing). Though since there is no reason it is a moot issue, don't spend time coding something that you don't need.
Edited by mushroomboy - 7/22/11 at 9:32am
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