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[MaximumPC] Carmack Rages Over Devs' “Snooty Attitude” Toward Call of Duty

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Call of Duty's a strange beast. It's all at once the gaming industry's calling card and whipping boy, with frequent angry words flying between sides like so many spammed grenades. If you keep your ear against the industry's pulse, though, Infinity Ward's infinitely sequelized cash cow that lays golden eggs is kind of a joke. It never changes. It's everything that's wrong with first-person shooters. Etc. Id Software mega-brain John Carmack, however, thinks it's high-time you come down from that high horse.
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carmack is an ass now. he's not the same person that PC gamers used to worship. most things he has to say for the past 5+ years boils down to "XBOX XBOX XBOX MONEY MONEY Nintendo sucks AMD sucks XBOX XBOX XBOX".

the man sounds just like my little cousin, that's not a good thing.
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wonder if he would say that if rage doesnt sell well because of MW3
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He's right.

It's like all of these people who bash Apple products.

At the end of the day, customer satisfaction is all that matters. If they enjoyed the previous version, they will buy the next version. They will continue to do so until the product no longer satisfies them. Humans are creatures of comfort.

Whilst I may not personally enjoy the COD series anymore, I won't belittle the series considering how well it's selling.

People can come in here and tell me that quality doesn't equal quantity all they want, but when a game is topping nearly every chart imaginable, I don't see how they have valids arguments to oppose the figures and statistics.

I put it down to personal opinion.
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Does Carmack profit from CoD since they basically use his game engine? Why would he criticize a game that he licensed his game engine to?
Edited by Riou - 7/22/11 at 7:47am
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He's right.

It's like all of these people who bash Apple products.

At the end of the day, customer satisfaction is all that matters. If they enjoyed the previous version, they will buy the next version. They will continue to do so until the product no longer satisfies them. Humans are creatures of comfort.

Whilst I may not personally enjoy the COD series anymore, I won't belittle the series considering how well it's selling.

People can come in here and tell me that quality doesn't equal quantity all they want, but when a game is topping nearly every chart imaginable, I don't see how they have valids arguments to oppose the figures and statistics.

I put it down to personal opinion.
catch-all rebuttal, nice.

i'd take a 27 inch imac, but pretty much nothing else from apple(besides their OS....) and i'm god damn tired of call of duty. black ops is my last one for good reasons.

but yea yea, LEAVE BRITTNEY ALOOOOONE!!!

we get it.
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i wonder if these people that validate apple and CoD being universally amazing and any who don't like them as bandwagon haters say the same about the Wii, Wii Fit and Wii Sports. Nintendo outdid Activision by a country mile.
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He's right.

It's like all of these people who bash Apple products.

At the end of the day, customer satisfaction is all that matters. If they enjoyed the previous version, they will buy the next version. They will continue to do so until the product no longer satisfies them. Humans are creatures of comfort.

Whilst I may not personally enjoy the COD series anymore, I won't belittle the series considering how well it's selling.

People can come in here and tell me that quality doesn't equal quantity all they want, but when a game is topping nearly every chart imaginable, I don't see how they have valids arguments to oppose the figures and statistics.

I put it down to personal opinion.
Yep, its like WoW haters, we know it's getting old but it still sells like crazy and has numerous subscribers and it really is fun like COD
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CoD is not really like WoW, because there are other options for shooter fans looking for a good game in the genre.

name objectively, a proper MMORPG that was of or near the quality of WoW and offered a viable alternative. That situation is only likely to change starting this year.
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He's right.

It's like all of these people who bash Apple products.

At the end of the day, customer satisfaction is all that matters. If they enjoyed the previous version, they will buy the next version. They will continue to do so until the product no longer satisfies them. Humans are creatures of comfort.

Whilst I may not personally enjoy the COD series anymore, I won't belittle the series considering how well it's selling.

People can come in here and tell me that quality doesn't equal quantity all they want, but when a game is topping nearly every chart imaginable, I don't see how they have valids arguments to oppose the figures and statistics.

I put it down to personal opinion.
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i wonder if these people that validate apple and CoD being universally amazing and any who don't like them as bandwagon haters say the same about the Wii, Wii Fit and Wii Sports. Nintendo outdid Activision by a country mile.
You can like a product, and like another product as well. People seem to forget this.

Its like when President Bush said if you are against the war in Iraq/Afghanistan, you were pro-terrorism. It doesn't work like that. Take Apple as a company, I generally don't like their recent public lawsuits, but I have nothing against their products. Again when dealing with the cult of mac, I have nothing against the products at all, they are very nice (expensive/overpriced but nice) but I can't stand the fanatics.

I don't understand why people feel better personally when they put down CoD. From what I have seen its mostly BF2/BC2 supporters. It almost appears to be the inferiority complex at work. Which doesn't make sense Battlefield 2 and Bad Company 2 were fantastic. I don't get why people can't let other people enjoy one, the other, or both.

Alas, as Ron White said, "Can't fix stupid."
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