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You can still activate application Expose if you hold your mouse over the application icon in the dock when you activate Mission Control. And, whilst the task bar does show you how many windows you have open, the only time I need to know that is when I'm changing windows, which I can easily see from Mission Control. But, to each his own, I guess.

Yes hold your mouse. That takes to long to be useful. What I've proposed would be that MacOSX does dock expose by default if you have more than one window open a program

Oh, I know that... lol

I'll never believe anything can run as smoothly as something implemented as the creators of the OS themselves.

Well your in luck because Microsoft created intellipoint and they also created Windows.
I think I could beat you but that's kind of hard to prove

I like it. It feels like I've got a hub for everything I need, and I've not had any difficult yet switching between windows. And yes, I have encountered those dialog windows that only show up when you click the parent window.

A hub is exactly what I don't need. I don't need 2 middle men for my windows. I just want to see it and click it. I don't want to hit a button or a corner then get barf on a screen, then find the program, then find the window within that program. I already do that with the task bar.

I like it hidden, and would prefer it more hidden. I also like my dock hidden.

I don't really think Fullscreen Apps or Mission Control were created to try and fix the dock. It's not like it's hard to implement the features in Windows 7 for the task bar. I don't even know why we need a dock and I hope they remove it. Launchpad gives me quick access to all my apps from anywhere and Mission Control shows me every window I've got open.

Spotlight also gives you access to your apps a lot faster than hitting that dumb rocket ship(or gesture).

Ah, you've jogged my memory. I don't really remember much about it though. I've never had a problem with Spotlight, I type in "t" and it finds TextEdit for me. It's fast, and I much prefer Spotlight over Windows Search, but like I said to each his own.

Just for one windows search is a whole lot more accurate for me. Try it out yourself.

Ha, I never noticed that before.

Ah, thanks. I'm happy with the taskbar as it is though. Cheers.



Dude I love these discussions. This is like right up my alley. This gives me material for when the Mac guys at work start throwing lies about Windows. I have my argument ready and I'll have some idea of what they might say.
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Pointless argument is pointless. Everyone knows that bash, vi, and pine is all you need.
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It's a bizzaro world these days. In the old days, Apple was expensive but good, with a slim, easy to use OS that was devoid of bloat, and came with some pretty good applications that were usable - and they were not making much money. Now, it's still expensive but borked, with a bloated OS crippled with featuristis, where each new "version" that comes out borks even more applications that need to be replaced at great cost, with applications that are obese and interfere with performance and usability.

Really, it is a great achievement to have shovelled out an OS that people will blindly buy without any shred of actual media, and where even the smallest problem will brick the system (needing a trip to a Genius to fix it with some snake oil). And to have an OS that is not only less usable and more resource hogging than ever before - but that has become so inflated and bloated with featuritis that Windows 7 is clearly the performance champ on pretty much each and every level.

There is the old virus argument, but with all of the resource and performance sucking going on with garbage like TimeMachine, Spotlight and Stacks - it would take the average virus four months to execute.

Their sop to the lack of practical, real world applications is Bootcamp or virtualizing - by the time I buy all of that junk, I could just buy an entire PC and do it right.

Of course, it's pretty cool that they can charge three times more for an Air than any of the PC makers can charge for a superior, better performing netbook that has better specs and better build quality all around, with actual usable ports that standard devices can connect to.

Apple rulez!
The first part sounds like mindless bashing of Lion. How is adding features, changing the UI, and updating some of the bundled programs adding bloat. If anything else they got rid of "bloat" so the download on the Mac App Store was smaller.

If you know of any netbook that can compete against the Air in performance and thickness please show me. You can't because even the October 2010 Air with its Core 2 Duo can handily beat an Atom or AMD E-350 based netbook. Not to mention the new Sandy Bridge version is almost twice as fast in some cases as the Core 2 Duo. No netbook can come close to competing with the 0.11-0.68 thickness of the Air. Currently the only competitors to the Air are the Samsung Series 9 and Sony Vaio Z, both of which are more expensive than the Air. The best competitor looks to be the Asus UX21 but that isn't even released yet.

The build quality has a lot to do with the Unibody aluminum construction which feels extremely high quality. No netbook I know of has that. I have no idea what you mean by implying that the Air does not have "usable ports that standard devices can connect to." The wedge shaped design ensures easy access to the ports without the drop down door of the first generation Air. It has two USB ports, a Mini DisplayPort (aka Thunderbolt port in the new one), SD card reader (on the 13.3" version but not on the 11.6"), headphone jack, and MagSafe charging port. Those are more then enough ports for most people. I can even plug my Air into a TV or Projector with my Mini DisplayPort to HDMI cable.

Some of you guys really need to learn more about Macs instead of just bashing them. By doing so, your just as bad as the old "I'm a Mac and I'm a PC" commercials which stated mostly lies about Windows. For me I love my custom PC and I love my MacBook Air. I love my sig rig because it's super fast and custom made by me to fit my needs. I love my Air because it's ultraportable and light at 2.3lbs, boots in 15 seconds, super quiet, and is a very smooth running computer. I don't have a problem with using both Windows 7 and OS X, since they are both great operating systems.
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I know I was part of that one million downloads, and I have to say I love it. I mean, you can't beat a nice update to an already nice OS for $30 (unless it was free, which in my opinion 10.8 will be free).

I'm hoping that Windows 8 comes with a download option like Lion.
Paying for an update lol.
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If you know of any netbook that can compete against the Air in performance and thickness please show me. You can't because even the October 2010 Air with its Core 2 Duo can handily beat an Atom or AMD E-350 based netbook. Not to mention the new Sandy Bridge version is almost twice as fast in some cases as the Core 2 Duo. No netbook can come close to competing with the 0.11-0.68 thickness of the Air. Currently the only competitors to the Air are the Samsung Series 9 and Sony Vaio Z, both of which are more expensive than the Air. The best competitor looks to be the Asus UX21 but that isn't even released yet.
The Lenovo X1 is 0.63" thick, and the specs are better than the MBA. The MBA uses ULV processors (up to 1.8GHz), while the X1 uses full voltage ones (up to 2.7GHz).
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Yes hold your mouse. That takes to long to be useful. What I've proposed would be that MacOSX does dock expose by default if you have more than one window open a program
Well, it's not much different than dropping your mouse down to the Windows task bar to see previews of your windows.
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Well your in luck because Microsoft created intellipoint and they also created Windows.
I'm skeptical about that, I meant something that isn't integrated in the OS.
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A hub is exactly what I don't need. I don't need 2 middle men for my windows. I just want to see it and click it. I don't want to hit a button or a corner then get barf on a screen, then find the program, then find the window within that program. I already do that with the task bar.
That's what I want, too. And that's what Mission Control gives me. Sight of every window, and then I click it. It's easy to find what I'm looking for since the large icon is beneath the group.
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Spotlight also gives you access to your apps a lot faster than hitting that dumb rocket ship(or gesture).
Nuhuhh lol... for the record I'm talking about using the gesture not clicking it in the dock. I double tap my Magic Mouse, or use a swipe on my Trackpad. Usually the mouse though.
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Dude I love these discussions. This is like right up my alley. This gives me material for when the Mac guys at work start throwing lies about Windows. I have my argument ready and I'll have some idea of what they might say.
I'm not throwing lies about Windows 7 so you probably won't get much material from me in that regard, I just don't like some of what it offers (and doesn't offer i.e Expose) such as the Task-bar, Windows Search, etc., and much prefer what Lion does offer. Unlike those who don't know what they're talking about, I use Windows 7 every day, in fact I'm on it right now -- so my judgement isn't based off a one time fifteen minute go rather hours, and hours, every day.


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The Lenovo X1 is 0.63" thick, and the specs are better than the MBA. The MBA uses ULV processors (up to 1.8GHz), while the X1 uses full voltage ones (up to 2.7GHz).
That looks like a decent competitor for the Air, thanks for pointing it out. It should be noted that the Lenovo X1 is actually 0.65" at it's thinnest (versus 0.11" for the Air) and 0.84" at its thickest (versus 0.68" for the Air): Source. I'm not saying it's a bad competitor for the Air but I just wanted to correct you. It's not a netbook though it's an ultraportable like the Air. That statement in bold I was responding to this paragraph by EvanPitts:

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Of course, it's pretty cool that they can charge three times more for an Air than any of the PC makers can charge for a superior, better performing netbook that has better specs and better build quality all around, with actual usable ports that standard devices can connect to.
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That looks like a decent competitor for the Air, thanks for pointing it out. It should be noted that the Lenovo X1 is actually 0.65" at it's thinnest (versus 0.11" for the Air) and 0.84" at its thickest (versus 0.68" for the Air): Source. I'm not saying it's a bad competitor for the Air but I just wanted to correct you. It's not a netbook though it's an ultraportable like the Air. That statement in bold I was responding to this paragraph by EvanPitts:
Fair enough, I was just repeating the first thickness measurement I saw . It's not like a difference of 0.16" is significant anyway.

But yeah, netbooks - as in Atom/Nano/whatever - just plain suck unless you're poor and really need that battery life. They can't compete with anything.
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Paying for an update lol.
Don't hate - impregnate.
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