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The kernel is the core of the operating system. Without it, it wouldn't be able to interface with any of the hardware.

So no one confused the kernel with the operating system, I just assumed that the reason there were flash issues was due to a lack of some sort of optimization for the CPU.
Running Linux Mint 11 x64 with Firefox 5.0 and playing flash videos in fullscreen HD, I have to ask. Which issues ?
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Running Linux Mint 11 x64 with Firefox and playing flash videos in fullscreen HD, I have to ask. Which issues ?
Was running Ubuntu 11.04 on my 1.2Ghz dual core notebook, and full screen flash is choppy, even at 320.

I can run 720 full screen with no issues in Windows 7.

You probably are fine since your 2600k would power through any lack of optimizations anyway.
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The kernel is the core of the operating system. Without it, it wouldn't be able to interface with any of the hardware.

So no one confused the kernel with the operating system, I just assumed that the reason there were flash issues was due to a lack of some sort of optimization for the CPU.
If it is a problem related to heavy CPU load it has been fixed ages ago new Kernels offer a Preemtive switch to make sound and video Playback smooth.

If u need such a kernel u need to use a special Distro like erm Ubuntustudio.
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What was wrong with an x.y.z numbering system? Seriously.

So it had an extra decimal point, but I believe it was useful as it meant x-change = major rewrite, y-change = major release and z-change=minor release (as it should be IMHO). In an x.y system you know where the major rewrite is , but how is somebody supposed to find the difference between a major release and a minor release. For example, we do know that 9 to 10 was a huge change but the increase from 10.6 - 10.7 isn't nessarily as big as the change from 10.4 - 10.5 and 10.5 to 10.6. (*cough* apple)

Now applications will have to change there numbering systems and that will be more fun than the kernel changing its numbering system - there are tens of thousands of applications, if not hundreds of thousands of applications - and all will need changing, and each change will bring the oppertunity to break something.

Still, a wish linux a belated happy 20th birthday .
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Was running Ubuntu 11.04 on my 1.2Ghz dual core notebook, and full screen flash is choppy, even at 320.

I can run 720 full screen with no issues in Windows 7.

You probably are fine since your 2600k would power through any lack of optimizations anyway.
Hmm, yea, my laptop doesn't give those issues either but then again it's a core i5 @ 2.3 something Ghz.
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I mean, windows just works..
I thought Mac was the one that just works?
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If it is a problem related to heavy CPU load it has been fixed ages ago new Kernels offer a Preemtive switch to make sound and video Playback smooth.

If u need such a kernel u need to use a special Distro like erm Ubuntustudio.
You'd think this would be carried over to the other kernels (if it is in fact a kernel issue, and not the flash software) since flash usage is a household thing now days.
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I'm a noob when it comes to updating kernels and stuff, so maybe Mint will have an update with the new kernel?
Just use the update manager or run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install" and you will get the most recent kernel your distro offers.

Not many distros even offer the 3.0 kernel in their repositories, as many of them are several releases behind (for stability's sake), and it takes time to push the kernel upstream anyways.
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To tell you the truth, I really don't know. It is probably because Adobe hasn't given much attention to the Linux versions of flash.

For me, I think 95% of the videos I play full screen aren't choppy with the beta x64 version of flash. However, some videos have a really choppy slow playback and I can't really explain it. Of course I am running it with the hardware acceleration through Nvidia, so maybe if I turn that off it would be a lot worse.
Two issues were known, fullscreen not working and choppy video. Both fixed, I know you weren't asking your just the last related quote I had. =P

To those that have the issues, Flash 11 fixes a couple bugs (yeah, it surprised the crap out of me). The choppy video though may be a problem with the video drivers, though Adobe has crapped on linux the past couple releases.

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The kernel is the core of the operating system. Without it, it wouldn't be able to interface with any of the hardware.

So no one confused the kernel with the operating system, I just assumed that the reason there were flash issues was due to a lack of some sort of optimization for the CPU.
Ummm.... Umm.... Flash doesn't even touch cpu optimization, not to mention if you can bench PI on Linux at the same speeds in windows.... I... Just... Never mind, I don't think there's a valid way to explain the logic flaws in that.

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If it is a problem related to heavy CPU load it has been fixed ages ago new Kernels offer a Preemtive switch to make sound and video Playback smooth.

If u need such a kernel u need to use a special Distro like erm Ubuntustudio.
Not a kernel problem and flash, it was Adobe and crap coding. Everyone knows it, just ask around. Also, you don't need special kernels, preemtive is enabled by a switch. It's always there, just not always active. Think of it like having PAE support on 32bit windows (or linux). It's always there, you just have to enable it.

[edit: OP] SWEET I might have to build a new kernel for this occasion!!! I just updated to RC6 though, how lame.
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Running Linux Mint 11 x64 with Firefox 5.0 and playing flash videos in fullscreen HD, I have to ask. Which issues ?
User issues.
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