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I kind of stepped away from Ubuntu when they stopped using Gnome. Sure, you can switch back to "Classic mode" or whatever it's called, but I still prefer to use Mint on my laptop.

I'm a noob when it comes to updating kernels and stuff, so maybe Mint will have an update with the new kernel?

I feel the same
UNITY/Gnome 3 both blow chunks. Mint 11 has been my Fave Flave, lately.

@the guy who said Linux copied Apple...
LOL, WOW considering more then half of Linux isn't even running X...

Even if Linux copies some one, its not like they did it for the money.
I'm not sure what you are referring to exactly but I would like to here your explanation.

EDIT: @apple comment, you are being sarcastic and making a joke about apple suing every one right?
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I feel the same
UNITY/Gnome 3 both blow chunks. Mint 11 has been my Fave Flave, lately.

@the guy who said Linux copied Apple...
LOL, WOW considering more then half of Linux isn't even running X...

Even if Linux copies some one, its not like they did it for the money.
I'm not sure what you are referring to exactly but I would like to here your explanation.

EDIT: @apple comment, you are being sarcastic and making a joke about apple suing every one right?
Unity is a hopeless case. Gnome 3 will get better. Better enough to the point where I'll use it. Think of KDE4 and how "different" that was when it first came out. Plus, the gnome 3 extension directory will be up soon. It WILL get awesome.

PLUS, Apple copied Xerox.

/thread
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I still dont get why someone would want to use linux instead of windows.. I mean, windows just works.. Its easier. And you can play games..

I only use linux on my netbook.. thats where it belongs.
wut?



i use Linux so i can live free and not have my life dictated to and controlled by a megacorp. it's more secure, intuitive, and i can make it do what *i* want. Linux makes *sense.*
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PLUS, Apple copied Xerox.

/thread
Lol, that's basically what it boils down to really. Everyone, especially windows, copied Xerox.
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Wow, the guys complaining about flash not working need to actually install a distro before complaining about it. It does work in fullscreen. If it stutters, your probably just doing it wrong. Read and back up your own words before you say something.

Anyways, incrementing the kernel version like that and not including substantial features is soooo Linus Glad to see OSS still very strong. Now, if the GNOME project could just scrap that crappy Unity interface and revert back to what they had in GNOME2, that'd be great
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Don't be so smug. The kernel's ability to operate the CPU efficiently is huge in terms of application and OS performance on top of it. Different programs can use different instructions sets as well.

It's a 1.2Ghz dual core notebook, the difference between some sort of optimization or not would be very obvious in Flash due it's CPU use.

It's been stated before that it potentially might not be the Kernel, it could simply be that Flash isn't as streamlined on Linux. However, you would think that even if Flash weren't perfect, you'd be able to at least go full screen at 320 on a 1.2Ghz dual core without stuttering.

Realistically probably has to do with the distributions I was trying and my IGP.
Considering flash doesn't access the CPU hardware directly, I'd say that's still logic fail. Flash runs on top of the browser and only recently got hardware acceleration, which was all GPU based. While different programs do use different instruction sets this doesn't apply.

I was just pointing out the logic fail in the statement. Honestly if the CPU code was bad you'd see hiccups in the kernel everywhere, in any application that was using that instruction set. I'm pretty sure it would be posted all over the net, everywhere.

You are right on flash being craptastic on linux, that's Adobe's fault and we've been yelling at them for years.

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Goddammit. Dynpm still freezes my laptop. Hoped they had it fixed by now.

Anyway, Flash sucks balls. The garbage is due to Adobe's crappy code and lack of optimizations on their Linux builds. Using hardware acceleration makes it bearable, but it's only VDPAU. Though now that pipe-video has made it into mesa things may get a bit better.
VDPAU in flash? That would be Nvidia only.... I thought flash had hardware acceleration for AMD/Ati users too?

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Lol, that's basically what it boils down to really. Everyone, especially windows, copied Xerox.
No, technically apple stole from Unix. Well a free branch of unix that created the Darwin kernel. That Darwin kernel is now the Darwin kernel that OSX uses. Linux came from Unix as well, though it's kernel was written entirely from scratch by Linus!
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No, technically apple stole from Unix. Well a free branch of unix that created the Darwin kernel. That Darwin kernel is now the Darwin kernel that OSX uses. Linux came from Unix as well, though it's kernel was written entirely from scratch by Linus!
Fair enough, the code yes, but the GUI was all Xerox (If memory serves correct, it was the Xerox Alto around 1974-5?).
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If it is a thrust worthy source of info, Pirates of Silicon Valley depicted this as :
Apple and Microsoft went to Xerox, asked for stuff: executives didn't care for some patents and devices they developped and handed them away for peanuts. (Apple were the first to arrive at Xerox apparently).

Anyways, I thrust the producers to check their facts considering they had testimonies.
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Fair enough, the code yes, but the GUI was all Xerox (If memory serves correct, it was the Xerox Alto around 1974-5?).
yeah, I personally don't think we will ever find out the "truth". ='( Sad days back then. All you had to do was whip out your malicious code and they'd hand you patents like money!!!
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Does this update mean they'll get to fixing the power consumption regression bug? I'm having trouble remembering what hardware was affected by it though.
     
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