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i was watching linus tech tips on youtube, extreme cooler show down notua NH-d14 vs Corsair H70. note the BSOD just as he looks at the h70 for the last time. also note that it is overclocked.


the noctua wins that fight. i might setup some water cooling for my sig rig( after a couple of changes, GPU for exsample) and im thinking: is it worth it? of course, it will be quieter, but temps wont be to good for my oc'ing. but then again, i could install a better rad and other parts, so whats everyone elses verdict? should i move to water next, or stay with the air?

Edit: H100? just a thought...
Edited by TNTGODZZ - 7/22/11 at 2:17pm
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The noctua may beat an H70, but a custom loop with larger rads will blow any air cooling out of the water.
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$ vs performance watercooling is not worth it. It's for those who want to push the components, possibly have a silent computer, and have something to tinker with. Watercooling gets VERY expensive once you get "the bug". IMO I'll never build another aircooled computer again. Watercooling is the only way to go.
 
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H70 isn't the "real" watercooling... And the h80 beats the noctua... But the best is a >200$ loop
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thanks for the information. ill probably find the parts and start saving the money for the loop( this includes GPU thats worth it and a case that will work for a water cooling loop!)
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H80 doesn't beat the noctua and thats from corsair george
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lambecrikas View Post
H70 isn't the "real" watercooling... And the h80 beats the noctua... But the best is a >200$ loop
+rep cause i feel the same way. H70 and any H series cooler is a fake wanna be water cooling system. Ok ok maybe not fake but its self contained and not as efficient. The noctua beat the H70 because look at the testing method that he used. that is what is fair. He took the fans off the noctua and put them on the H70 so the corsair couldn't cheat and use 2500rpm fans to beat the noctua *cough* H80 *cough*

A custom watercooling loop will always be the best and coolest way to cool your cpu. Tho it can get a little expensive you do have options like this kit that make it all better

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/11...tml?tl=g30c321

or you could even add a gpu to this kit!!
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/12...tml?tl=g30c321
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Building a custom WC loop is like sex, once you start you can't get enough...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lambecrikas View Post
Building a custom WC loop is like sex, once you start you can't get enough...
does it go then once you get old you cann't be bothered, and all the youngsters think it's disgusting that you still do it
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I won't knock novices or first-timers who opt for those self-contained H70-type kits, but to my mind it rather defeats the purpose of water cooling.

To understand that, you have to first understand the very basics of water cooling: your components are not actually being cooled by water; rather, the heat produced by your components is just being transferred by water so that it can be dissipated by the radiator. The advantage here, of course, is that you have theoretically unlimited surface area with a radiator, whereas a regular heatsink's size is constrained by the fact that it's sitting on top of the CPU or GPU.

Now with these little self-contained H70-type units, your "heatsink" (i.e. radiator) is merely ~120mm x 25mm - about the same size as an actual aftermarket heatsink you'd be using with air cooling anyway. Therein lies the problem.

If you want real performance (or combination of performance and quiet that is impossible on air), you need to have a much better heat:surface area for heat dissipation ratio. In other words, you want a 240mm radiator for a CPU, a 360mm radiator for two GPUs, etc. There are of course more variables involved than that - fin density of radiators, fan types and size used, pumps, and so on - but that's the gist of it.

Beware, however, that "real" water cooling is not for anyone on a budget. Once you start adding up reservoirs, pumps, blocks for CPU and GPU, tubing, and so on and so forth, you are easily talking about $500+ spent. If you're not interested in the hands-on experience of just doing something cool or keen on getting maximum performance at quiet levels, just stick with air cooling.
Edited by matrices - 7/22/11 at 3:42pm
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