Overclock.net › Forums › Graphics Cards › Graphics Cards - General › GTX 590 & AMD 6990 understanding
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

GTX 590 & AMD 6990 understanding

post #1 of 6
Thread Starter 
I see allot of people whining about the GTX 590 and AMD 6990 cards not living up to the reputation on performance vs dollar you pay for it. I see a thread was started here but closed before I could reply to it. ------- > H E R E

I want to first point out we all see many reviews and benchmarks on these cards everywhere on the net. Most of them trying to one up Nvidia and vice versus to be the king of all video cards for the next 6 months etc.

When you see these benchmarks most of the testing is done at low low resolutions and will not show the true power of these cards. Nvidia or AMD should insist that all benchmarks and reviews must be done at a resolution of minimum of 1920x1200 to 2560x1600 and a multi monitor setups only. Why would anyone want to buy these cards and only play it at 1680x1050????

If one buys a Porsche 911 Turbo and puts in the gas tank 87oct and it starts to ping and the performance sucks what would think it would do. My point is these cards are made to play our games at 2560x1600 with everything maxed out seeing all the eye candy one can see tell your eyes want to jump out of there sockets.

Anyone can go online techpower.com and see the benchmarks on what these cards can do at various resolutions, but if your monitor will only go to 1680x1050 and expect a 6990 card to be worth it you are kidding yourself. One would be better off buying a 6950 or GTX570 etc and spending the money on newer hardware like a SSD or newer monitor(s) setup etc...

I am just frustrated on how people can whine or not understand how these cards really work, or justify the cost. I think $699.00 is not bad when 7 years ago I paid $499.00 for one 7800GTX card to make my first SLI setup. Yes I understand we are in a recession and prices are high to some and maybe not to others. Bottom line only buy what you can afford period. If you want to buy something down the road and start building a high end system then make sure you have a 30" monitor or a multiple monitor setup for your build.

Here are a couple of examples of 1920x1200 vs 2560x1600 setups on these cards.



And a multi monitor setup at 5760x1080 4AA $ 16xAF

Edited by Lu(ky - 7/23/11 at 11:38am
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Intel 5960X Asus Rampage V Extreme X99 GTX TITAN X 12GB  GTX TITAN X 12GB  
RAMHard DriveHard DriveCooling
G Skill F4-3000C15Q-16GRR Samsung 950 PRO 512GB M.2 Samsung 850 PRO 1TB (Storage) Alphacool UT60 480 & 560 radiators 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Bitspower AIX99R5E Nickel Plated Full-Covered-B... Windows 8.1 64-bit Acer Predator X34 G-sync  Corsair RGB K70 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsair 1200i Power Supply CaseLabs SMA8 WHITE ROCCAT Kone XTD SteelSeries XXL 
Audio
Matrix Mini-i PRO DAC & Headphone Amp & Adam Au... 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Intel 5960X Asus Rampage V Extreme X99 GTX TITAN X 12GB  GTX TITAN X 12GB  
RAMHard DriveHard DriveCooling
G Skill F4-3000C15Q-16GRR Samsung 950 PRO 512GB M.2 Samsung 850 PRO 1TB (Storage) Alphacool UT60 480 & 560 radiators 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Bitspower AIX99R5E Nickel Plated Full-Covered-B... Windows 8.1 64-bit Acer Predator X34 G-sync  Corsair RGB K70 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsair 1200i Power Supply CaseLabs SMA8 WHITE ROCCAT Kone XTD SteelSeries XXL 
Audio
Matrix Mini-i PRO DAC & Headphone Amp & Adam Au... 
  hide details  
Reply
post #2 of 6
The size of the monitor is irrelevant since the resolution will be the same, 1080p for example.

But yes, my 570 is ample for 1080p, I'm gonna get a second one when I can afford another 2 screens. But I do see your point

Incidently, trifire for a single screen is excessive btw.

Comps
post #3 of 6
Who is this even directed at?
Snowdevil
(16 items)
 
ASUS G750JM
(9 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
[i7 4790K @ 4.4 GHz (1.186v)] [Asus Sabertooth Z97 Mark S] [nVidia Geforce GTX 1080] [nVidia Geforce GTX 1080] 
RAMHard DriveCoolingOS
[G.Skill 32GB DDR3 2133 MHz] [Crucial MX100 256GB] [Phanteks PH-TC12DX] [Win 10.1 Pro] 
MonitorMonitorKeyboardPower
[LG 29UM65 (2560x1080)] [QNIX Evo II LED (2560x1440)] [WASD v2 Tenkeyless] [NZXT Hale90 v2 ] 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
[ThermalTake GT10 Snow Edition] [Razer Mamba - Chroma] [Razer Kabuto] [Razer Man O' War] 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 4770HQ Intel HM87 Express Chipset Geforce GTX 860M 8GB DDR3L 1600 MHz 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Samsung SSD EVO DVD-RW Stock Windows 8.1 
Monitor
1920x1080 TN 
  hide details  
Reply
Snowdevil
(16 items)
 
ASUS G750JM
(9 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
[i7 4790K @ 4.4 GHz (1.186v)] [Asus Sabertooth Z97 Mark S] [nVidia Geforce GTX 1080] [nVidia Geforce GTX 1080] 
RAMHard DriveCoolingOS
[G.Skill 32GB DDR3 2133 MHz] [Crucial MX100 256GB] [Phanteks PH-TC12DX] [Win 10.1 Pro] 
MonitorMonitorKeyboardPower
[LG 29UM65 (2560x1080)] [QNIX Evo II LED (2560x1440)] [WASD v2 Tenkeyless] [NZXT Hale90 v2 ] 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
[ThermalTake GT10 Snow Edition] [Razer Mamba - Chroma] [Razer Kabuto] [Razer Man O' War] 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 4770HQ Intel HM87 Express Chipset Geforce GTX 860M 8GB DDR3L 1600 MHz 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Samsung SSD EVO DVD-RW Stock Windows 8.1 
Monitor
1920x1080 TN 
  hide details  
Reply
post #4 of 6
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RagingCain View Post
Who is this even directed at?
If you search almost same title you will see it, not to mention I really do not think people understand the logic behind these cards. I am just giving my on this topic. Not to mention the thread was closed while I was typing up a response to it etc.. I guess when the heat gets to high just close a thread and go hide behind a couch.
Edited by Lu(ky - 8/4/11 at 3:59pm
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Intel 5960X Asus Rampage V Extreme X99 GTX TITAN X 12GB  GTX TITAN X 12GB  
RAMHard DriveHard DriveCooling
G Skill F4-3000C15Q-16GRR Samsung 950 PRO 512GB M.2 Samsung 850 PRO 1TB (Storage) Alphacool UT60 480 & 560 radiators 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Bitspower AIX99R5E Nickel Plated Full-Covered-B... Windows 8.1 64-bit Acer Predator X34 G-sync  Corsair RGB K70 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsair 1200i Power Supply CaseLabs SMA8 WHITE ROCCAT Kone XTD SteelSeries XXL 
Audio
Matrix Mini-i PRO DAC & Headphone Amp & Adam Au... 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Intel 5960X Asus Rampage V Extreme X99 GTX TITAN X 12GB  GTX TITAN X 12GB  
RAMHard DriveHard DriveCooling
G Skill F4-3000C15Q-16GRR Samsung 950 PRO 512GB M.2 Samsung 850 PRO 1TB (Storage) Alphacool UT60 480 & 560 radiators 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Bitspower AIX99R5E Nickel Plated Full-Covered-B... Windows 8.1 64-bit Acer Predator X34 G-sync  Corsair RGB K70 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsair 1200i Power Supply CaseLabs SMA8 WHITE ROCCAT Kone XTD SteelSeries XXL 
Audio
Matrix Mini-i PRO DAC & Headphone Amp & Adam Au... 
  hide details  
Reply
post #5 of 6
Wrong demographic looking at the wrong cards. So there is no ''logic'' for them.

But it's useless trying to explain those 2 cards to those people. It's like banging your head against a brick wall.
    
CPUCPUMotherboardGraphics
i7-5930k @ 4.9  i7-3930k @ 5.1 (2nd rig) Asus Rampage V (X99) + Asus Rampage IV (2nd rig) 2X Nvidia 1080 Ti SLI watercooled 
GraphicsRAMRAMHard Drive
2X Nvidia 980 Ti SLI watercooled (2nd rig)  4X8GB=32GB G.Skill DDR4-2700 4X4GB=16GB Ripjaws DDR3 2400 CL9 (2nd rig) 3X Samsung 840 Evo 1TB SSD 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Samsung 850 Pro 250GB 3XSeagate 3TB LG Blu-ray writer 2X Quad-120 MCR420 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
2X Triple-120 MCR320 + 1X Triple-120 Feser 2X Dual-120 XSPC RX240 32 Gentle Typhoon fans (mix of 3000 and 1850rpm) Reservoir 2X Koolance RP-452x2 with 4X MCP655 p... 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
2X EK Supreme HF CPU waterblock Windows 10 Pro x64 Acer XB270HU IPS G-Sync 2440p (main rig) 3X 30'... CoolerMaster Masterkeys Pro S MX blue switch, C... 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Antec HCP1200 + AX850 dual PSU main rig, AX120... Mountain Mods Extended Ascension + Pedestal 24 ... Logitech G502 x 2 PSB speakers 5.1 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUCPUMotherboardGraphics
i7-5930k @ 4.9  i7-3930k @ 5.1 (2nd rig) Asus Rampage V (X99) + Asus Rampage IV (2nd rig) 2X Nvidia 1080 Ti SLI watercooled 
GraphicsRAMRAMHard Drive
2X Nvidia 980 Ti SLI watercooled (2nd rig)  4X8GB=32GB G.Skill DDR4-2700 4X4GB=16GB Ripjaws DDR3 2400 CL9 (2nd rig) 3X Samsung 840 Evo 1TB SSD 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Samsung 850 Pro 250GB 3XSeagate 3TB LG Blu-ray writer 2X Quad-120 MCR420 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
2X Triple-120 MCR320 + 1X Triple-120 Feser 2X Dual-120 XSPC RX240 32 Gentle Typhoon fans (mix of 3000 and 1850rpm) Reservoir 2X Koolance RP-452x2 with 4X MCP655 p... 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
2X EK Supreme HF CPU waterblock Windows 10 Pro x64 Acer XB270HU IPS G-Sync 2440p (main rig) 3X 30'... CoolerMaster Masterkeys Pro S MX blue switch, C... 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Antec HCP1200 + AX850 dual PSU main rig, AX120... Mountain Mods Extended Ascension + Pedestal 24 ... Logitech G502 x 2 PSB speakers 5.1 
  hide details  
Reply
post #6 of 6
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Levesque View Post
Wrong demographic looking at the wrong cards. So there is no ''logic'' for them.

But it's useless trying to explain those 2 cards to those people. It's like banging your head against a brick wall.
No wonder why I have a headache
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Intel 5960X Asus Rampage V Extreme X99 GTX TITAN X 12GB  GTX TITAN X 12GB  
RAMHard DriveHard DriveCooling
G Skill F4-3000C15Q-16GRR Samsung 950 PRO 512GB M.2 Samsung 850 PRO 1TB (Storage) Alphacool UT60 480 & 560 radiators 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Bitspower AIX99R5E Nickel Plated Full-Covered-B... Windows 8.1 64-bit Acer Predator X34 G-sync  Corsair RGB K70 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsair 1200i Power Supply CaseLabs SMA8 WHITE ROCCAT Kone XTD SteelSeries XXL 
Audio
Matrix Mini-i PRO DAC & Headphone Amp & Adam Au... 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Intel 5960X Asus Rampage V Extreme X99 GTX TITAN X 12GB  GTX TITAN X 12GB  
RAMHard DriveHard DriveCooling
G Skill F4-3000C15Q-16GRR Samsung 950 PRO 512GB M.2 Samsung 850 PRO 1TB (Storage) Alphacool UT60 480 & 560 radiators 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Bitspower AIX99R5E Nickel Plated Full-Covered-B... Windows 8.1 64-bit Acer Predator X34 G-sync  Corsair RGB K70 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsair 1200i Power Supply CaseLabs SMA8 WHITE ROCCAT Kone XTD SteelSeries XXL 
Audio
Matrix Mini-i PRO DAC & Headphone Amp & Adam Au... 
  hide details  
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Graphics Cards - General
Overclock.net › Forums › Graphics Cards › Graphics Cards - General › GTX 590 & AMD 6990 understanding