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post #1 of 108
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Hello all,

I own a 4 yr old Geforce 7600GS 256 MB PCI-E card and looking to upgrade the same to play some new games.. problem here is i want to do this without having to upgrade my CPU/mobo/RAM/PSU

My current system spec.

Socket 939 AMD Athlon 64 3000+ Venice core
Asus A8N-VM CSM mobo
1 + .5 gb PC 3200 (200 Mhz) RAM
XFX Geforce 7600GS 256 MB PCI-E card
Zebronics platinum 500w PSU

http://www.zebronics.net/m500w_plati...wersupply.asp#

PSU specs:
24 (20+4) Pin Connector x1
ATX 12v 4 Pin Connector x1
EPS 12v 8 Pin Connector x1
PCI Express 6 Pin Connector x1
Peripheral 4 Pin Connector x4
SATA 15 Pin Connector x4
Floppy 4 Pin Connector x1

AC input : 230v - 50hz 5A Please Select Right- Voltage
DC Output (Max)
+3.3V +5V +12V -12V +5VSB
24A 26A 22A 0.8A 2.0A

I'm looking @ cards like GT 440 / GTS 450 / GTX 460 / GTS 250

Please let me know the best card that would suit my current PC..
I hear people saying it would not make any sense at all to pick any of these cards without upgrading the CPU & mobo & RAM ! (which i really really cant afford & dont wish)

and others say the 500 W doesn't matter.. its the amp rating & my PSU will not handle any of these cards and would just burst!

Anxiously waiting for your inputs.. thanks !
post #2 of 108
With a single core 1.8GHz processor, you will only have enough processing power to run older graphics cards.
The 939 Socket type is from 2004. I think you have reached the potential of the system with your current setup.
You will need a new motherboard and cpu combination to reach the next level of performance.
The power supply may be able to run NVidia cards a notch lower than the ones you have listed however. 9800\\240 or so?

I am in a similar situation as you.
    
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Are you sure my CPU runs @ just 1.8 Ghz ? I believe it is somehow much much faster than a Intel 3 Ghz..

N also the GTS 250 requires only about 80w of power as per the info I have gathered.. is it not true ?

Assuming that I would upgrade my CPU/mobo sometime later, would not installing these cards now give me some performance atleast ?
post #4 of 108
the way the chips were rated at that time is that the number(i.e. 3000)was equal to the intel chip with (3000mhz)processing power(but yes 3000 was 1.8 or 2 in a 754 socket).

more ram wouldnt hurt,but to be truthful its throwing money at an old system,the performance gains would be negligible.

i'd keep my money in my pocket and wait,failing that you could just watch and see am3 price drops with the release of am3+,its only round the corner...
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post #5 of 108
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hmm.. just spoke with my local computer dealer and he says I should not have any problem running the GTS 250 on my current config
he says the gpu is a processor by itself and it will work and stuff's like that....
he suggests me the zotac gts 250 ....
post #6 of 108
Why not get a GTX 550TI instead? Here's a rough comparison vs the gts 250:

http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards....=606&card2=647

Not only is it much faster, but it also uses much less power, has all the latest features like DirectX 11 support and you should definitely run into no problems in terms of power.

I still think all of those cards will still be bottlenecked by any of the latest GPUs or even the mid-range older ones though, but if you really insist, I'd strongly recommend the 550ti instead.
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post #7 of 108
seriously man u should get an upgrade

maybe see if u can build a cheap q6600 rig

but if you are dead set on just a gpu then as suggested above the 550 is perfect.
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post #8 of 108
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Okay.. I guess I must start talking sense .. now that all of you say.. an upgrade is a must !

We are onto the track for an upgrade.. lets fix the budget @ 220-230 USD (all the CPU + mobo + RAM) put together... (just applied to local currency exchange rates)

Suggestions please ! (I'm looking for an AMD based system)

To start with.. how is this combo as suggested by a few..

AMD Phenom II X4 840
MSI - 880GMS-E35 or GIGABYTE GA-MA78LMT-S2
1 or 2 GB DDR3

Few other points...

Will the above setup (/w on board graphics only) allow me to play the recent games atleast at a decent setting ? Crysis 2 n the lots...

Second, I hope my current PSU (Zebronics platinum 500w) is good enough for this rig? http://www.zebronics.net/m500w_plati...wersupply.asp#

Third, can I save on the RAM cost by using my present 1.5 GB PC 3200 itself ?

Thanks !
post #9 of 108
You could try to find a used S939 X2 or Opteron to replace yours for super cheap at this point. You could probably get a decent cpu+mobo+ram for about $200 though, especially compared to your current system. Your current RAM is DDR, sadly not compatible with DDR3.

Onboard graphics aren't going to be sufficient, unless maybe if you're considering one of the new AMD APUs. It might be kind of weak for what you want though.
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post #10 of 108
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In that case, I opt for a new CPU+mobo+RAM+GPU combination on my current PSU..

Can you please suggest some competitive price - performance value for money models ?

Also, will opting on a lower CPU like AMD athlon II X3 as against a phenom II x4 make sense as I'm anyways installing a separate GPU ? or is it that the phenom II has its own advantages inspite of installing a separate GPU too ?

My computing is a general average user + browsing + multitasking + HD/Blu-ray movies and last but not least... gaming (The no.1 priority)..
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