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Originally Posted by Uncivilised;14335161 
At stock the 6970xfire and 580 sli are about the same because the 6970's scale better. However the fermi chips scale a hell of a lot better when you overclock them and are faster clock for clock. I was stuck on a budget so I chose 6950's however if I had the moeny I would take the 580's without hesitation. A 580 at 900 core will beat a 6970 at 1000, given these are the typical overclocks you would expect. Difference i would imagine would be quite noticeable

Not at all... generally speaking stock 6970s are more comparable to stock 570s...

here are benches with the latest caps/drivers from this month


here are benches taken this month with the latest caps and drivers (single cards)

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source: http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/44826-his-hd-6970-iceq-turbo-hd-6950-iceq-x-turbo-x-review.html

Crossfire scales slightly better but in terms of raw power 580s are always> 6970s unless we are talking about texture fill rates.
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nobody is doubting the 580 is fastest single card....
but in 6970 crossfire vs 580 sli crossfire scaling wins
if anyone can show me current drivers proving me wrong ill glady say i am wrong
but until that happens...anada n hard>everyones opinion
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Originally Posted by urbanshaft;14336161 
nobody is doubting the 580 is fastest single card....
but in 6970 crossfire vs 580 sli crossfire scaling wins
if anyone can show me current drivers proving me wrong ill glady say i am wrong
but until that happens...anada n hard>everyones opinion

just because it scales better doesn't mean it's faster

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Originally Posted by badatgames18;14336211 
just because it scales better doesn't mean it's faster

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source:http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/41903-nvidia-geforce-gtx-590-3gb-review-7.html

uhhhhh ima call heavy biased on nvidia from that site
everyother site will say 6990>590 yet that review shows 590 winning everything......
if a 580 is what 10%faster then 6970...580sli scales 80% in a game while 6970 crossfiree 90-95%....whos gona win
i dont understand why all these people cant accept such.....
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Wrapping up, you know I'm still a little flabbergasted as to why NVIDIA clocked the card as low as they did. Likely they are ying-yang with the fact that this card performance roughly equal slash close to R6990 performance and simply opted for low noise and a fashionable power consumption. But in this cutthroat business, yeah, I expected NVIDIA to give the R6990 a run for it's money. That is certainly is not the case, especially when you would enable the unlocked mode on the R6990. In all fairness, we think that ATI still applies a trislope optimization giving them a small perf advantage over NVIDIA's defaulted image quality.
http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-590-review/21

•Performance is not higher than HD 6990
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GTX_590/27.html
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Originally Posted by urbanshaft;14336264 
uhhhhh ima call heavy biased on nvidia from that site
everyother site will say 6990>590 yet that review shows 590 winning everything......
if a 580 is what 10%faster then 6970...580sli scales 80% in a game while 6970 crossfiree 90-95%....whos gona win
i dont understand why all these people cant accept such.....

so you are actually arguing that two 6970s are faster in most games then two 580s?
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Originally Posted by urbanshaft;14336289 
Wrapping up, you know I'm still a little flabbergasted as to why NVIDIA clocked the card as low as they did. Likely they are ying-yang with the fact that this card performance roughly equal slash close to R6990 performance and simply opted for low noise and a fashionable power consumption. But in this cutthroat business, yeah, I expected NVIDIA to give the R6990 a run for it's money. That is certainly is not the case, especially when you would enable the unlocked mode on the R6990. In all fairness, we think that ATI still applies a trislope optimization giving them a small perf advantage over NVIDIA's defaulted image quality.
http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-590-review/21

•Performance is not higher than HD 6990
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GTX_590/27.html

if you look at most of the benches on the sites you just posted, you'll see that they coincide with the benches i posted confused.gif

i don't get it... the argument wasn't about 590vs 6990... it was about 6970s vs 580s
and i respectfully disagree.. if you look at a crapload of benches... you will see that 580s top 6970s on anything bellow 5760x1200
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Wow... This thread should simply be closed. The OP posted that he was picking up 2 580's before any of this began. I assume he may even have them by now. As such, why all the bickering?

I'm not going to cite any hardware reviews, and everyone else doing so should let it die already. The people arguing back and forth aren't doing anyone any favors when the OP already chose.

  • Everyone agrees the 580 is the fastest single GPU in the world.
  • Most people agree that AMD cards are scaling better than SLI at the moment. I'm not going to disagree with brett or anyone else how they get their numbers.
  • 6970's can beat out reference 580's but not usually at 1080 unless the game already favored AMD.
  • Once the resolution is raised above 1600p AMD cards have fared better than initial NVidia options. This has changed with NVidia's release of GPU's with more VRAM like the 3GB 580 or the 2.5GB 570

In conclusion, who cares. OP already made his choice. If we really want to duke it out, lets start a fresh thread with people who actually own the cards and let them bench it out. This thread degenerated like so many of these threads do into the realm of pathetic smile.gif
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