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uhhhhh ima call heavy biased on nvidia from that site
everyother site will say 6990>590 yet that review shows 590 winning everything......
The card wins at 1080p/1200p and drivers updates have brought more improvements than they have for the 6990.
 
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post #92 of 109
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Blah blah blah, the OP already made his decision on the FIRST page. For this thread to continue yet another EIGHT pages where it did not even help the OP, but only fill your egos is really pathetic.

Urbanshaft and IBM Watson: You two are technically "new" here with such low post count and rep. I'm not saying that post count and rep is what makes a person here, but most members here would rather listen to editors and members who have thousands of posts and years of experience on OCN versus a couple of "newbies" that keep wanting to jam crap down everyone's throats. The sad fact is that neither of you have the gpus mentioned by the OP, so why bother?
Maybe the mods should stop being biased and admit that the 580 under performs in multi gpu setups. Dont take it from me, read the reviews dude.
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Please, stop peddling this screen... It is one setting, give it more AA, the 6970's choke, give it less AA and the 1.5gb 580's are allowed to breath... You argument is invalid, especially in this thread...
Ok. So gamers pay 1000$ for 580 1.5Gb SLI, try to use 3X24'' LCD, but they have to lower their settings, use very low AA, etc. So you pay 1000$ for 2 cards that Nvidia are selling for ''high-end'' gaming, but you CAN'T use them for true high-end gaming.

You have to use them with a single monitor at 1980X1200, or else they will ''choke''.

Then the same gamers can buy 3X6970 or 6990+6970 for the SAME price, put the same high-end gaming set-up of 3X24'' LCD, use max AA, max settings, and have a fully working high-end gaming triple monitor set-up. And they have MORE VRAM, and better multiple card scaling also.

But... the 580 SLI set-up is the ''BEST'' for 1000$?

Nvidia should stop marketing those 1.5Gb 580 saying ''surround ready'' and for ''high-end gaming''. Those, in SLI, are NOT surround ready, and not for high-end multiple screen gaming. False marketing, and overpriced on top of it.

Nvidia are laughing all their way up to the bank.
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$1000 can getyou 3gb versions now. 1.5gb is $800
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Awesome choice, i love my cards, they are brand new like yours. Simply too powerful!
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Want 3D vision gaming and movies? Only one clear choice - Nvidia.

Want multiple monitors? You can go with 3GB 580's (awesome performance) but at a steep price - better choice AMD.

Only have one monitor and don't care for 3D vision or multiple monitors? You can choose either because either is going to give phenomenal performance. Go with what you think you'd like at this point, no wrong choice.

That's the truth.

In before thread is closed because this has just turned into people calling people names and people starting a flame thread using words like ' fanboy ' which is uncool. If you can't get your points across like an adult with intelligent rebuttal, please refrain from posting.
     
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...proof 6970crossfire beat 580sli in most games
and alot cheaper.id buy 2 6970 lightning and never look back
I'd get the 6970s too, or maybe buy 1 | 580 3072MB 03G-P3-1584-AR and a good GPU cooling system so you can give it a stable overclock.
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For 3D vision or 2D on one 120hz or 60hz monitor the 580 3.0GB or the 6970 2.0GB isn't going to give you better performance over the 1.5GB SLI or Crossfire. More VRM isn't helping, so it's an awesome card and does out performs the 6970 in SLI or Crossfire situation.

Also I don't know if your paying attention but prices are already dropping for the 580 1.5GB and after mail in rebates you can pick a new one up for $439.00 at Fry's Electronics.

Add another monitor and that's when VRM becomes an issue and the 1.5GB falls behind. It's fact and I don't think anyone is arguing that point.

If your going multiple monitors the 3.0GB version is great but it does come at a steeper price for more performance and unless your going 3D vision at that point the 6970 becomes the card of choice.

Price per performance, that's when the AMD 6970 wins. Price per performance aside and just raw performance the 3.0GB SLI is better than the 6970 2.0GB Crossfire and does make a difference in multiple monitors.

I understand your argument, but not everyone is concerned price per performance and it's just about performance for some. Then your point is diminished a little and dosen't pertain to everyone.

My 3DMark 11 score on one GTX 580 1.5GB, hardly a 'POS'. Check out the 580 Overclockers Club, there are even higher scores with the Lightnings, TFII's, and DCII's 1.5GB versions as well as SLI specs which are hard facts the OP can see for himself.

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But for the price of 2X580 1.5Gb, you can get a Tri-Fire set-up: 6990+6970, that will soundly beat the Nvidia set-up. 1000$ against 1000$, 2 cards against 2 cards. So why pay 1000$ for the inferior SLI set-up?

Read it here. The Tri-Fire set-up is clearly winning... for the same price.

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/...trifire_review

Look at those results. For the same price? Really?
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But for the price of 2X580 1.5Gb, you can get a Tri-Fire set-up: 6990+6970, that will soundly beat the Nvidia set-up. 1000$ against 1000$, 2 cards against 2 cards. So why pay 1000$ for the inferior SLI set-up?

Read it here. The Tri-Fire set-up is clearly winning... for the same price.

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/...trifire_review

Look at those results. For the same price? Really?
the man makes a hard point to argue against
    
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