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Well this situation started a week ago. I had put together my new rig which consisted of my i7, MSI pP67A-GD65, and 8 gigs of G.Skill Sniper memory. I had finished updating a fresh install of windows when I restarted my system, only for it to stay off. I tried pressing the power button a few times but it wouldn't turn on.. so I switch the PSU off and on again and then restarted. As soon as I did the GPU fan when to full speed, and dark, smoke came out around the heat sink to the left of the CPU And it smelled pretty bad too.

As soon as I saw that I switched off the PSU, and there was a small burn mark behind the heatsink of the mobo.. I checked the CPU and the socket and all seems fine, but I don't have a spare system to individually check out the parts. However when I switched the PSU back on the mobo power buttons lit up, but I don't want to try turning it on obviously.

Finally I got my replacement mobo, and installed the cpu, 1 stick of ram, and my video card and the system starts but then shuts down after a couple of seconds. And it will start again and stop again until I switch off the PSU. I sent the mobo back to the member I bought it from and got a new one off of Newegg, but I'm STILL getting the same problems. I even tried another PSU, still no luck. The fans spin up, the mobo lights will turn on but no video, no beeps and it will last for ~10 seconds. Also, when I plug in a keyboard and mouse they don't power up at all. I'm not sure if it is the CPU that is the problem.. although the CPU does get warm when I start the system up. Did my RAM get shorted out?

tl:dr Open box mobo fried, got a replacement and now no post, no video, power cycles every few seconds. Got ANOTHER mobo and used another PSU and same problems. CPU gets warm during booting. Is my RAM at fault? Or could it be something else?
post #2 of 11
This sounds CPU related, where the computer just fails entirely to start. It's possible the CPU has been damaged. With RAM issues you'd at least get some sort of error, not just catastraphic failure at power-up.

I'd imagine the sketchy first mobo hurt the CPU when you had that initial issue.
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This sounds CPU related, where the computer just fails entirely to start. It's possible the CPU has been damaged. With RAM issues you'd at least get some sort of error, not just catastraphic failure at power-up.

I'd imagine the sketchy first mobo hurt the CPU when you had that initial issue.
The thing is all power phase lights are on when I turn on the system, and the CPU even gets hot, so I didn't think it was the problem. But then again when I plug a mouse or keyboard in they don't get power.
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dead cpu?
Maybe also a fried mosfet.
    
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The thing is all power phase lights are on when I turn on the system, and the CPU even gets hot, so I didn't think it was the problem. But then again when I plug a mouse or keyboard in they don't get power.
That would suggest there is power being correctly delivered to the CPU through the phases, and there is voltage running through the CPU itself, but its internals are destroyed, since the CPU would have to work to manage the USB array correctly, but also the USB headers or whatever on the MOBO but God only knows how the mobo is layed out so it could be messed up capacitors or a dead CPU or both. This really sounds like a dead CPU to me, though. But I'm no electronic engineering expert.
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That would suggest there is power being correctly delivered to the CPU through the phases, and there is voltage running through the CPU itself, but its internals are destroyed, since the CPU would have to work to manage the USB array correctly, but also the USB headers or whatever on the MOBO but God only knows how the mobo is layed out so it could be messed up capacitors or a dead CPU or both. This really sounds like a dead CPU to me, though. But I'm no electronic engineering expert.
I'm not too sure to be honest, but tomorrow I'm gonna pick up a cheap kit of RAm at CompUSA and see if that is the problem
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Well, I tried seeing if new RAM would solve the problem, but I'm still getting the same issue. The CPU is the only thing I haven't swapped, but I'm not really sure if that's the problem because it does get warm to the touch and all phase lights are on when it starts. But then again I get no power to mouse/keyboard. A little help would be nice
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Assuming that your cpu is fine, it sounds like you're just having trouble getting your pc to post. Have you tried resetting your CMOS?

Also, try your GPU in another pc to make sure that it works.

And also try booting up your computer with only the basics.
CPU
GPU (another known working one would be optimal)
Each stick of memory individually
PSU
disconnect ALL peripherals and drives.

That lovely post beep is what you're looking for! Try resetting CMOS each time after trying to boot up with different components. If you can get it to post once and enter the bios, then you should be able to get it working.
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Assuming that your cpu is fine, it sounds like you're just having trouble getting your pc to post. Have you tried resetting your CMOS?

Also, try your GPU in another pc to make sure that it works.

And also try booting up your computer with only the basics.
CPU
GPU (another known working one would be optimal)
Each stick of memory individually
PSU
disconnect ALL peripherals and drives.

That lovely post beep is what you're looking for! Try resetting CMOS each time after trying to boot up with different components. If you can get it to post once and enter the bios, then you should be able to get it working.
I have tried the integrated graphics and my 570, two different kinds of RAM, and in different slot combos. Also, I have cleared CMOS multiple times, and tested with 2 PSU's.. The only thing to swap is a CPU but I don't know anyone that has a known good Sandy Bridge CPU
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I have tried the integrated graphics and my 570, two different kinds of RAM, and in different slot combos. Also, I have cleared CMOS multiple times, and tested with 2 PSU's.. The only thing to swap is a CPU but I don't know anyone that has a known good Sandy Bridge CPU
Sounds like it's time to RMA the CPU. If you've gone through all that, the CPU is the only thing that's left to swap. I don't think the heat means that it's working, I would imagine all it means is that power is going through it. That doesn't mean that it has to function correctly.
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