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with x6 1100 currently @$190 from newegg, and the "leaks" saying $190 for FX-4xxx at launch

just from a gaming point of view, the 4-core i5-2500k is a beast @$220

for a possible $30 difference, how good at GAMING would a FX4 have to be to compete?

Assuming that the FX6 and FX8 won't really be any better at 95% of games, just maybe higher clocked than an FX4

EDIT: unless that 2cores working as a module can be used by games, so like a 2mod or 3mod or 4mod chip

but a FX8 will cost a lot more than an i5
Edited by Mit Namso - 7/23/11 at 10:26am
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Slightly faster than a 955 clock for clock is what I'm thinking.

AMD is known to price gouge on release, and if they're already attempting to underbid Intel my guess is they're under performing by more than what the initial price indicates.


The way I figured it the 4 core cpu is about 1/2 as powerful as the eight core cpu, clock for clock. So in order for the 4 core cpu to be on par with the i5-2500k the eight core would have to be twice as fast as the i5-2500k. The i7-2600k is only about 20% faster in apps that use HT over the i5-2500k...

Does that make sense?

I don't think AMD would release the eight core cpu at $300~ if it was that much faster than the i7-2600k. It just doesn't make sense for AMD to have all that power and still under bid Intel.
    
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I don't think AMD would release the eight core cpu at $300~ if it was that much faster than the i7-2600k. It just doesn't make sense for AMD to have all that power and still under bid Intel.
It does if you're trying to make a statement and get some market share back.
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It does if you're trying to make a statement and get some market share back.

Even if BD was 10%-20% faster than SB, they would get almost no market share back, not even 1% propably. It's because everyone buys Intel and they are already massive, and on top of it enthusiast market only makes up a very little segment of the market.
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You need to look through the eyes of the OEM manufacturers to understand.wink.gif
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Having to push Bulldozer back put AMD behind the eight ball. That, and the fact that Intel has decent pricing on feature-rich motherboards right now makes it easy to go for quick gratification and get a 2500k now rather than wait.
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I would think they would want to take back the more bang for your buck category. Since SB came out you can build a really killer rig for a lot cheaper than older Intel systems and really only a few more bucks than a AMD rig.

So I would think if they want the more bang for your buck market back, they would have to have something that is just as fast as the i5-2500/i5-2500k and sell it for 30 to 40 bucks less. Because Intel is now dominating the bang for your buck category with the i5-2500k.
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The market to aim for is the OEM and server markets. Those will gain the biggest market share. The enthusiast market is very tiny.
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come on gaming performance

either way, I'll have the $$$ for BD or SB+MB right after BD release
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Originally Posted by BallaTheFeared;14319445 
I don't think AMD would release the eight core cpu at $300~ if it was that much faster than the i7-2600k. It just doesn't make sense for AMD to have all that power and still under bid Intel.

They've done it before. Do you remember when the 3700+ San Diego outperformed the entire Intel lineup and was still under $200? Intel was still charging a thousand dollars for the EE chips,too.
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