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The overclocking on the 2012 8core will be insane.

A good water block = 5.5ghz stable.
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post #52 of 244
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Originally Posted by ecnelitsep View Post
Its in the sweepstakes rules on Amds facebook for entering to win an 8 core bd. Ill post it when I get back to my desktop
Thanks
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Originally Posted by Heavy MG View Post
He said should be,not is.

$300 could be any one of the 8 core models.
I know what he said. I was curious as to where he read it
post #53 of 244
I lost a bit of faith for a while, but it's not all gone. I just don't want it to be the "great white hype"... I can't do anymore AMD based letdowns for awhile.

So I'm trying to play a bit of devils advocate and try to keep things within perspective instead of getting drunk of the bulldozer cool-aid.
    
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I do apologize though Balla. You were partially correct in that it may take a lighter load and/or less cores to reach the turbo frequency they listed in the OP, being 600Mhz instead of 500. I guess we should just wait till they come out and see. We don't have enough info to pass off either of our claims as fact I suppose.
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The turbo will probably be like this. Note these numbers aren't correct or anything, just using "random" numbers to show the functionality.

1 core full load -> turbo on all cores 4.5Ghz
2 cores full load -> turbo on 4.35Ghz
3 cores full load -> turbo on 4.2Ghz
4 cores full load -> turbo on 4.05Ghz
etc
Speed will depend on the load, but not disable cores. Seems a more advanced version of the turbo, and I like it.


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The turbo will probably be like this. Note these numbers aren't correct or anything, just using "random" numbers to show the functionality.

1 core full load -> turbo on all cores 4.5Ghz
2 cores full load -> turbo on 4.35Ghz
3 cores full load -> turbo on 4.2Ghz
4 cores full load -> turbo on 4.05Ghz
etc
Speed will depend on the load, but not disable cores. Seems a more advanced version of the turbo, and I like it.
That link clearly said up to 500Mhz will be all 8 cores, even 16 cores with the server parts. ALL cores will do 500Mhz turbo no matter the load. Anything over that it MAY have to disable a core. So the 600Mhz turbo may indeed put it at 7 cores active or maybe 8 cores at 600 but only when it is 80% load or under ,etc. We don't know yet. But for 500Mhz, all cores will stay active even if 100% loads. At least if AMD isn't lying.
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That link clearly said up to 500Mhz will be all 8 cores, even 16 cores with the server parts. ALL cores will do 500Mhz turbo no matter the load. Anything over that it MAY have to disable a core. So the 600Mhz turbo may indeed put it at 7 cores active or maybe 8 cores at 600 but only when it is 80% load or under ,etc. We don't know yet. But for 500Mhz, all cores will stay active even if 100% loads. At least if AMD isn't lying.
Yeah, i wasn't trying to say that the cores will have independent speeds. But that the speed of the whole cpu will be depend on the total load.
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I'll start caring about Bulldozer when the official benchmarks come in and these CPUs are competitive with a 2600K.

Until then, it's all just hype.
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If Bulldozer does beat Sandy Bridge, it will most likely be in heavily multithreaded applications. In lightly threaded applications Bulldozer would have to be a huge improvement over Thuban (even with the clock speed bumps) to be competitive with SB. Is it possible to get that kind of huge IPC bump? yes. Is it likely? No.
I think you might be surprised that the Bulldozer core wasn't built for multithreaded tasks but more of single threaded tasks

Heavily Multithreaded applications will like physical threads over virtual threads that is just a side effect of what is known

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bulldozer was always set to compete against sandy bridge ... at least the 2011 version ... and so it will ... and if hardware site compare them 1 year later with ivy until bulldozer-E is released it doesnt mean that they were meant to compete against them ....


and bulldozer-E will be here in 2012 ... late 2012 that is .. but still ... it will be here to compete with ivy bridge with is only a shrink of sandy with slight tweaks .... nothing too fancy really ....


and in 2013 haswell will compete with bulldozer 2nd generation ....



how is that not simple ....
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