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bulldozer was always set to compete against sandy bridge ... at least the 2011 version ... and so it will ... and if hardware site compare them 1 year later with ivy until bulldozer-E is released it doesnt mean that they were meant to compete against them ....

and bulldozer-E will be here in 2012 ... late 2012 that is .. but still ... it will be here to compete with ivy bridge with is only a shrink of sandy with slight tweaks .... nothing too fancy really ....

and in 2013 haswell will compete with bulldozer 2nd generation ....

how is that not simple ....
"Meant" to compete with doesn't mean a whole lot to me. Let's take an optimistic scenario where Bulldozer is competitive with Sandy Bridge. When the enthusiast SB-E and the later IB platforms come out, Bulldozer will be relegated to the second-place/budget market because SB-E and IB will be out on the market at the same time as BD.


Remember Phenom II? It came out over 2 years after Intel's 2006 Core 2 architecture and only managed to be competitive with Core 2, not the later Nehalem or Westmere.
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Phenom II does compete
It competes...with Intel's 2006 Core 2 Architecture in terms of performance. Actually, Core 2 Quads have slightly better IPC than Phenom II.

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Bulldozer aka Orochi but for us Desktop users Zambezi
will compete with Sandy Bridge-E

Enhanced Bulldozer aka "Unknown" but for us Desktop users Komodo
will compete with Ivy Bridge-E

The E means "Enthusiast" / "Extreme"

Bulldozer isn't a generation behind but a generation ahead

Haswell is the only CPU that will have a competing ISA with AMDs ISAs that will release with "Bulldozer" CPUs
Not in performance they're not.
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nice
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Except that isn't AMDs positioning

All FX processors are going to fight all Intel EE class CPUs
Yeah because a $300 FX-8100 can compete with a $1000, i7-3960X Extreme Edition 6 Core/12 thread CPU w/15 MB of L3 cache...

/Sarcasm
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Please post a link to where AMD said that

Here ya go tw33k



http://sites.amd.com/us/promo/proces.../fx-rules.aspx
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Good one! Thanks mate
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Good one! Thanks mate
Np, anytime
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come on with the benches already

when does a typical AMD NDA end, a few days before launch?
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was this confirmed by amd? No. So why are so many people believing this junk?
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was this confirmed by amd? No. So why are so many people believing this junk?
Exactly.
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