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I have another thread another about gaming laptops,but I realized I'm going to college to study,not play computer games.That gaming laptop will make me play on it(sort of),and distract me from my primary goal.My major is engineering and I plan to do well.I am a former WoW addict,so I know how bad it sucks to play 20 hours a day for months living on chips and red bull.I hate computer games now,though I still play sometimes out of habit.

I know certain macs can play some games,but not that well,which is a great incentive not to buy a gaming laptop.Plus Apple has resale value.

I get a 100$ coupon for mac apps and also 100$ straight off on the macbook as a student.

I customized a Mac book pro 15 inch model as below:

2.0GHz Quad-core Intel Core i7
8GB 1333MHz DDR3 SDRAM - 2x4GB
256GB Solid State Drive
Intel HD Graphics 3000
AMD Radeon HD 6490M with 256MB GDDR5
SuperDrive 8x (DVD±R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW)
MacBook Pro 15-inch Glossy Widescreen Display
Backlit Keyboard (English) & User's Guide

PRICE:2419 $ +100$ free apps.(2319$)

However if I buy the basic 15 inch model worth 1700 $ and upgrade with my own SSD and ram...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...%20CT256M4SSD2

and this memory

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...0666CL9D-8GBSQ

Price is 1700+485=2185 +100 $ free apps.(2085$)

The price difference is 234 $.

However the SSD is SATA III,will it work with the Macbook Pro 13 and 15 inch?Does the motherboard on the Macbook Pro have sata III?Which mobos do the 13 and 15 inch models have?

Will I void the warranty using my own drives and memory?

Or should I buy the 13inch model with my own upgrades the price is 1400+485=1785 $(100 $ free apps).

The basic difference between the 13inch and 15inch is that the latter has a radeon card and a quad core processor.As I dont plan to game,do I really need it?

Thanks for reading the long post.
Edited by Maxin - 7/23/11 at 2:36pm
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I don't know if it applies here but I know there was some funky business going on with one of Apple's computers if you tried to install your own SSD since they use some proprietary connector or something. I think the most important part is if you think you need a 13" or 15" display. If you plan to bring it around for school, 13" will inherently be lighter and easier to carry.
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I don't know if it applies here but I know there was some funky business going on with one of Apple's computers if you tried to install your own SSD since they use some proprietary connector or something.
You're thinking of the iMac. The 2011 15" and 17" MBP models however, do struggle with SATA III in the OptiBay area, if you do decide to swap the optical drive out for a SATA III drive.
    
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Or should I buy this one?Looks amazing but I need to know whether the hdd on this one can be replaced with a SSD.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/HP+-+Pav...35dx&cp=1&lp=1
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Not to be forcefully discouraging the OP but at 2k a Mac is not even remotely worth the price. If you think you can resell it for anything near that you will be sorely mistaken. You'll be lucky to resell it for 1k. Add in just how over priced it is for the parts along with the inevitable cooling issues you'll face I'd start reconsidering.

So lets weigh sticking with the mac first:
I can't see any reason you would need a SSD (another part likely to last a shorter time than you would like if used as a primary drive). So change that to a normal HDD and save yourself the money.

Next; ask yourself how often do you use more than 3GBs of RAM doing normal workloads and then find out what possible programs you will use in your major and their requirements. Odds are you won't need the 8GBs and can save more there from things you don't need.

I honestly don't know why you're even considering the 15 inch if you claim you're not interested in gaming. The 13inch should be more than enough power and the lighter weight is something you'll be grateful for after dragging books around with you.

So if you are going mac you should look at either the Air or the 13inch Pro unless you need rendering power from the GPU. Then I would be unable to recommend any Apple laptop.

Finally why are you interested in a Mac? There are high quality windows/linux laptops that offer more choice/freedom/capabilities and for the same price or less.
     
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The hdd is far more likely to be replaceable on the HP laptop.

Additionally, regarding your initial replacements. It would be best if you could find "Mac" variants of all of your parts, because compatibility with Apple is such a pain.

ProEdit: And yeah, what Rookie said. Keep with the 13" MBP or an Air if you're not interested in gaming. If you do want gaming, forget about all of the memory and using the SSD as a primary drive. At their current price point, SSD's should be used only as OS/important app drives on desktops.
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Not to be forcefully discouraging the OP but at 2k a Mac is not even remotely worth the price. If you think you can resell it for anything near that you will be sorely mistaken. You'll be lucky to resell it for 1k. Add in just how over priced it is for the parts along with the inevitable cooling issues you'll face I'd start reconsidering.

So lets weigh sticking with the mac first:
I can't see any reason you would need a SSD (another part likely to last a shorter time than you would like if used as a primary drive). So change that to a normal HDD and save yourself the money.

Next; ask yourself how often do you use more than 3GBs of RAM doing normal workloads and then find out what possible programs you will use in your major and their requirements. Odds are you won't need the 8GBs and can save more there from things you don't need.

I honestly don't know why you're even considering the 15 inch if you claim you're not interested in gaming. The 13inch should be more than enough power and the lighter weight is something you'll be grateful for after dragging books around with you.

So if you are going mac you should look at either the Air or the 13inch Pro unless you need rendering power from the GPU. Then I would be unable to recommend any Apple laptop.

Finally why are you interested in a Mac? There are high quality windows/linux laptops that offer more choice/freedom/capabilities and for the same price or less.
Well I guess I am slowly getting brainwashed to buy a macbook.It's getting harder to ignore after every review I read.

1)Apple record sales last quarter,especially on Macbooks.
2)Best customer support
3)Sleek design
4)Build Quality
5)Best touchpad
6)Friend said most of the students in his college used macbooks.

This is all I have read from this site and other reviews SO FAR.I am not claiming this is true unless I try one for myself.The curiosity is killing me.

Do you like Hp one I linked from Bestbuy?
Edited by Maxin - 7/23/11 at 3:39pm
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Well I guess I am slowly getting brainwashed to buy a macbook.It's getting harder to ignore every after review I read.

1)Apple record sales last quarter,especially on Macbooks.
2)Best customer support
3)Sleek design
4)Build Quality
5)Best touchpad
6)Friend said most of the students in his college used macbooks.

This is all I have read from this site and other reviews SO FAR.I am not claiming this is true unless I try one for myself.The curiosity is killing me.

Do you like Hp one I linked from Bestbuy?
The HP isn't bad. I can't say anything about their "quality" though.

As for you numbered list:
1)What do a companies sales have to do with you the consumer? Nada. They only indicate what the company has sold to people. So why does that matter?

2) I think people claim Apple has the best costumer support just because of the way they handle things and how it's designed to appease the customer.

3) Design is ok. It's also a problem in that they have/might currently have to downclock the power the laptop so that it doesn't overheat.

4) The build quality thing is something I've gone into before and I warn you that dropping one of these suckers will send the full force throughout the unit. Aluminium doesn't do well in mitigating shock.

5) Since I had to get an iPod fixed (which means replaced in Apple speak) I toyed around with all they had in store and I don't understand what's so great about their touchpad. It seemed hardly anything to write home about.

6) Just because other people do something you want to do it too?

I'll make no attempt to hide my contempt for Apple as a company. However, there are a few things I can say I would buy from them: ATV (if it could do 1080p), the mac mini, or the Air. The rest of their lines have competition that I can't fathom choosing Apple for.

In all I think the HP was decent but you should shop around more to make sure it's what you want. The mac Air really is the only model (maybe the 13inch pro) that I can recommend without feeling like I'm letting someone get completely robbed.

Keep in mind that if you get the air you will not be able to connect to anything but an Apple screen without buying some overpriced connector.

If you get the chance I'd try all the models you're looking at out. That's really the only way to know for certain.
     
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I agree with everything Rookie says, Macs are horrible investments IMO. But to each his own.

At least when you buy an Apple computer, its good to go. If you buy an Win 7 HP laptop, you gotta do a fresh install before you get what you paid for.
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