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Looks good. I'd get a 650W gold rated PSU though, SeaSonicUSA or Corsair Preferably. Also I'd get a Samsung F3 for like $20 less, upgrade to a Z68 board for like the same or less, drop the SSD in favor for a 3D monitor. I'm assuming you have the OS already?
If OP is going to stick with just one 580 then a 650 watt will work great. If OP is going to go with two 580s in the future the 750 watt will work. I assumed that was a possibility so i voted for keeping the 750.
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I would go with this
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There are a few problems with this build.

Power Supply/GPUs
That is extreme overkill for two 560Tis. You can run them in SLi on a 650 watt. Also why would you go with two 560s from the start? OP would have no way to upgrade later on in the future without selling both of the cards first. A single 580 with a 750 watt power supply will allow the OP to have a very powerful rig from the start and have the option to SLI that 580 later on in the future

Hard Drive
The Caviar Black is nice but over priced. The Samsung F3 1tb is faster and much cheaper.
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If you want maximum performance for $1400, you should consider crossfire or SLI. 2 GTX 560 Ti's should be close or on par with the performance of a gtx 590, which costs $750.
    
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you really think a F3 would be faster than those 2 in raid?! lmao. plus its not like those things are even reliable.
yea the 850 is a bit much but it's not that expensive and it wont be pushed hard so it will last longer... duh. plus it leaves more headroom if he plans to buy a new graphics card, or 2, in the future. plus you have to incorporate the extra power required to overclock cpu + gpus.
by the time the op will need to upgrade seeing that the 580 is such a powerful card, there will be no point in getting another 580. there will be 28nm cards which will make way more sense to get. 2 560 ti's perform better than a 580 and cost less. seems like a no brainer to me.

and there are no problems... a problem implies that it wouldnt work.

650 watts would be a problem. according to this review,

A second card requires you to add another ~175 Watts. You need a 700+ Watt power supply unit if you use it in a high-end system (800+ to a KiloWatt is recommended if you plan on any overclocking).

http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforc...-sli-review/14

sounds like you're not as knowledgeable as you thought.
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you really think a F3 would be faster than those 2 in raid?! lmao. plus its not like those things are even reliable.
yea the 850 is a bit much but it's not that expensive and it wont be pushed hard so it will last longer... duh. plus it leaves more headroom if he plans to buy a new graphics card, or 2, in the future.
by the time the op will need to upgrade seeing that the 580 is such a powerful card, there will be no point in getting another 580. there will be 28nm cards which will make way more sense to get. 2 560 ti's perform better than a 580 and cost less. seems like a no brainer to me.

and there are no problems... a problem implies that it wouldnt work.
F3 can frequently be found for as low as $50 on sale. So picking up 2 F3's, i thnk, is a better option.
    
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you really think a F3 would be faster than those 2 in raid?! lmao. plus its not like those things are even reliable.
yea the 850 is a bit much but it's not that expensive and it wont be pushed hard so it will last longer... duh. plus it leaves more headroom if he plans to buy a new graphics card, or 2, in the future. plus you have to incorporate the extra power required to overclock cpu + gpus.
by the time the op will need to upgrade seeing that the 580 is such a powerful card, there will be no point in getting another 580. there will be 28nm cards which will make way more sense to get. 2 560 ti's perform better than a 580 and cost less. seems like a no brainer to me.

and there are no problems... a problem implies that it wouldnt work.

650 watts would be a problem. according to this review,

A second card requires you to add another ~175 Watts. You need a 700+ Watt power supply unit if you use it in a high-end system (800+ to a KiloWatt is recommended if you plan on any overclocking).

http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforc...-sli-review/14

sounds like you're not as knowledgeable as you thought.
Actually you can SLI 580s on a 750 watt with room for overclocking. If you don't believe me then check this. You are the reason so many people buy AX1200 for absolutely no reason.
850 watts are for SLIing 480s (More power hungry then the 580s) and tri-SLI/Xfire rigs. Also now that you bring up the smaller dies that just shows that future GPUs will need even less wattage. Smaller dies need less power therefore more important. SLI 560s do cost less and will out perform a single 580 but what happens when OP wants to upgrade?? He has to sell two much lower powered cards just to get any sort of boost in performance. The same thing happened when the 460 came out and now we have a used market flooded with 460s selling for $100 because they are realizing they don't have any way to upgrade.

The Samsung F3 1tb is cheaper then a Caviar Black. If you put them side by side or in Raid 0. Samsung f3 1tb>Caviar Black. Samsung F3 1tb Raid 0>Caviar Black Raid 0. And where on Earth are you getting that the F3s are unreliable? Just because they don't have the Western Digital name makes them unreliable?? The F3s are the best 7200 rpm 1tb hard drives you can buy. Faster and cheaper then Caviar Blacks makes them a "no brainer" as you say.


Sorry OP for the rant but it needed to be corrected.
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I would get a bigger SSD if you can.
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Why not an 2600k? I spent $1536 on my build
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Why is the Spinpoint unreliable revamper?
Mine has been nothing but reliable but what do I know owning one and all.
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