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Ok so i have a Phenom II x4 965 BE 3.4Ghz cpu. I've been reading up that with black edition processors that you can just use the multiplier in the BIOS to OC. I don't want to do a crazy oc but i would like to get at least a 3.6-3.8 (and yes i have an aftermarket cooler) Now i know after you hit a certain multiplier your system will not boot into the OS, and then you need to change the voltage to keep OCing. Would it be safe to assume i could go from a 17x(3.4ghz)to a 18x(3.6ghz)-19x(3.8ghz)(without it crashing) multiplier without changing the voltage if it is stable from running prime95 and leave it there 24/7. All i want to do is give it a little more speed. Sorry if i sound confusing im new to this, thanks for your patience
    
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You should be able to achieve 3.6GHz on stock volts easily. Just make sure your CPU temp stays below 55c with prime 95.

Here are my overclocking numbers for example:

FSB: 205
Multiplier: 20
Speed: 4.1GHz
Voltage: 1.440V
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For me (955BE which is 3.2Ghz at stock) I can set my voltage to stock (Auto voltage is just horrible all together) which is 1.35V (You may need more like 1.375v depending on your chip) and get 3.6Ghz, but for 3.8Ghz I need 1.45v to be stable.

You usally need more voltage for anything over 3.6 Ghz from what I see.
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So if i decided to go to 3.8 but my system didnt bsod or crash, could i leave it at stock volts? From what i understand, and correct me if im wrong. Is that as long as your computer doesnt crash you can go as many multipliers as you want without having to change the voltage, is that correct? or is it safer to change the voltage? Also should i leave my voltage at auto or put it as manual?

I am going to go to 3.6 probably tomorrow, since it's so apparently easy to do with the multiplier being unlocked and all. Plus i don't have to mess with anything else.

I was going to use the easy OC genie i have on my MSI 890GXM-G65 board but it has been getting some mixed reviews about it. What are your thoughts about that?

Oh yea one more thing, you think i should save my settings in my bio, incase something happens so i dont have to reset the CMOS?
Edited by KBnugz - 7/23/11 at 5:50pm
    
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Originally Posted by KBnugz View Post
So if i decided to go to 3.8 but my system didnt bsod or crash, could i leave it at stock volts? From what i understand, and correct me if im wrong. Is that as long as your computer doesnt crash you can go as many multipliers as you want without having to change the voltage, is that correct? or is it safer to change the voltage? Also should i leave my voltage at auto or put it as manual?

I am going to go to 3.6 probably tomorrow, since it's so apparently easy to do with the multiplier being unlocked and all. Plus i don't have to mess with anything else.

I was going to use the easy OC genie i have on my MSI 890GXM-G65 board but it has been getting some mixed reviews about it. What are your thoughts about that?

Oh yea one more thing, you think i should save my settings in my bio, incase something happens so i dont have to reset the CMOS?
I wouldn't advise using the OC genie, those usually over volt the chip to acheive the OC'd speed. You can usually find a happier medium on your own.

You should be able to hit 3.6 ghz no problem, but don't leave your voltage on auto. Do what Bob said, set it at the stock voltage 1.35V, and try some stress testing. If it's not stable @ 3.6 try bumping up the voltage a little, just monitor your temps when you are stress testing.

Try using prime95, OCCT, ITB, Linpack, etc to stress test.
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Do you think i should save my current bios incase something happens? How long should i run stress test? 8hrs? How much of a temp increase do you think il get from raising it .2ghz? One last thing, i know i need to turn off amd cool 'n' quiet, but do i need to turn off anything else? Sorry for the questions just want to make sure so i dont screw my computer to all hell, thanks in advance : )
Edited by KBnugz - 7/23/11 at 6:23pm
    
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Im a AMD noobie and i did my 3.8ghz easy with volts set to 1.375. Also set NB freq to 2600mhz. Prime Stable - max cpu temp 45DegC.
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Always take control of your bios if your over clocking, if you dont your bios will always call for more than what is needed, and do more thinking than it should. And if you want to make sure your settings are stable run prime 95 no less than 8 hours. Other wise setting your bios your self insted of leaveing anything on auto your system will run better, boot faster and be much happier.
    
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don't leave any voltage settings on AUTO because apparently BIOS likes to draw in a lot than what is needed.
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So is there anything else i need to change (c1e)?? in order to achieve 3.6. (Just mess with the multiplier and run prime95 untill its stable)Also for a couple days now the idle temps have been around 34c, which i think is a little high. So i did a system restore for a few days prior and now its at 26c-28c at idle and while im surfing the web. Does that sound a little odd to you fellas? Also should i do a prime95 run before i oc to see what temps reach, What if they are 58c-60c while doing the stress test without it being overclocked? Should i not overclock then? Or is that normal temps while doing a 100% test?
    
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