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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nethermir;14327758 
hmm looks like i need to read the guides again. i thought it's fine to leave it at auto. for testing purposes, i am using 4.5 ghz right now with +0.010 offset (ultra high llc). but when i load to windows, it just freezes at the windows logo. is that because i am lacking vcore?
Maybe.

Not to support a thread hijack, but what are the rest of your settings in the UEFI?
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Originally Posted by TwoCables;14327783 
Maybe.

Not to support a thread hijack, but what are the rest of your settings in the UEFI?

They are also in the screenshot I posted smile.gif There are 1 or 2 settings missing but they are on auto/default.
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Originally Posted by nezzarix;14322661 
I've been reading a lot of overclocking guides and a lot of them seem to contradict themselves when it comes to the Internal PLL Overvoltage setting. Some claim that it should be disabled while others claim that it's good for the CPU and should be enabled/on auto. I've tested my system with both options and haven't noticed a difference in voltage, stability, or temperatures.

So... Should I have it on enabled, disabled, or on auto? All comments are welcomed smile.gif I also posted my current settings in case one of my settings is not ideal.

in my personal experience with internal PPL Voltage i would first check to see what your chip stably clocks to in my case i did not notice any differnce in enabling it other than on cold boot with it enabled it would turn off then turn it self back on but i can get to 5ghz no problem but i choose to stay @ 4.7 as i have a 6990 on the loop as well on a RX360
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nezzarix;14327798 
They are also in the screenshot I posted smile.gif There are 1 or 2 settings missing but they are on auto/default.
I'm asking Nethermir.
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Originally Posted by TwoCables;14327910 
I'm asking Nethermir.

Ah, nevermind then biggrin.gif
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Whoa. I'm leaving mine disabled from now on until I absolutely, positively need it! When it's disabled, my POST time is 5 seconds shorter!

Try it!
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post #17 of 34
Quote:
Originally Posted by TwoCables;14327783 
Maybe.

Not to support a thread hijack, but what are the rest of your settings in the UEFI?

just to clarify my previous post. my computer freezes at the windows 7 logo at boot up when i have my internal pll overvoltage disabled. when it is enabled/auto, everything boots up fine. i thought this maybe something to think about for people who want to turn it off biggrin.gif

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Edited by Nethermir - 7/24/11 at 9:32am
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Running 4.8ghz with internal pll overvoltage disable and have no problems at all.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nethermir;14328115 
just to clarify my previous post. my computer freezes at the windows 7 logo at boot up when i have my internal pll overvoltage disabled. when it is enabled/auto, everything boots up fine. i thought this maybe something to think about for people who want to turn it off biggrin.gif

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Oh, I see. Let's use the values below and then see what happens:


Ai Tweaker
  • Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
  • BLCK/PCIE Frequency: 100.0
  • Turbo Ratio: By All Cores
  • By All Cores: 45
  • Internal PLL Voltage: Disabled
  • Memory Frequency: DDR3-1600MHz
  • DRAM Timing Control: 9-9-9-24-2N (don't change anything else)
  • EPU Power Saving MODE: Disabled


Ai Tweaker\ CPU Power Management >
  • CPU Ratio: Auto
  • Enhanced Intel SpeedStep Technology: Enabled
  • Turbo Mode: Enabled
  • Long Duration Power Limit: Auto
  • Long Duration Maintained: Auto
  • Short Duration Power Limit: Auto
  • Additional Turbo Voltage: Auto
  • Primary Plane Current Limit: Auto


Ai Tweaker (in the DIGI+ VRM section)
  • Load-Line Calibration: Ultra High
  • VRM Frequency: Manual
  • VRM Fixed Frequency Mode: 350
  • Phase Control: Extreme
  • Duty Control: Extreme
  • CPU Current Capability: 140%
  • CPU Voltage: Offset Mode
  • Offset Mode Sign: +
  • CPU Offset Voltage: 0.010V
  • DRAM Voltage: 1.5000
  • VCCSA Voltage: Auto
  • VCCIO Voltage: Auto
  • CPU PLL Voltage: Auto
  • PCH Voltage: Auto
  • CPU Spread Spectrum: Enabled


Advanced\ CPU Configuration >
  • CPU Ratio: Auto
  • Intel Adaptive Thermal Monitor: Enabled
  • Active Processor Cores: All
  • Limit CPUID Maximum: Disabled
  • Execute Disable Bit: Enabled
  • Intel Virtualization Technology: Disabled
  • Enhanced Intel SpeedStep Technology: Enabled
  • Turbo Mode: Enabled
  • CPU C1E: Enabled
  • CPU C3 Report: Auto
  • CPU C6 Report: Auto
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post #20 of 34
it depends on how good your chip is

bad chips need it enabled to reach 4.7

i have a bad chip

good chips may not need it till 5.1 range

so it all depends on your chip
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