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Currently I have a Hitachi 7200 rpm 1 TB HD. I've been thinking about converting to a 40-80 GB SSD. Would I do better to just use Norton Ghost or some other program to just make an image and put it straight onto the SSD, or just do a clean install then go from there. Thanks in advance.
post #2 of 11
I didnt bother making the direct image, since with ssd there are alot of tweaks you can do to further increase the ssd's performance and extends its life.

You can make a direct copy of your OS image but then you might have to realign the partion.

So i started from scratch.

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It's best to do a clean install. (with your HDD disconnected)

Reconnect your HDD later, fix the boot order, and if necessary assign your HDD a drive letter from Disk Management. Then proceed with applying SSD tweaks, reinstalling programs, and copying over anything important.
     
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It's best to do a clean install. (with your HDD disconnected)

Reconnect your HDD later, fix the boot order, and if necessary assign your HDD a drive letter from Disk Management. Then proceed with applying SSD tweaks, reinstalling programs, and copying over anything important.
This is exactly what I did a few days ago. (Just got my SSD)

You're better off starting clean.
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I would definitely go with a clean install, also no need to disconnect you HDD, just boot from USB/DVD and it'll be fine.

Also if you're installing W7 then you don't really need any tweaks but I do recommend having your Documents/Users Folders and PageFile all on a another drive.
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post #6 of 11
A clean install is better.

Also, if you are using Windows 7 64-bit, a 40GB SSD is too small. Get at least a 60 or 80GB SSD.



1. Connect SSD to the computer using one of the Sata ports;

2. Boot Windows from the HDD normally, go into disk management and do a quick format (don't do a full format);

3. Download or install utilities that came with your SSD; install latest Intel RapidStorage Drivers or whatever drivers the manufacturer of the SSD recomends; check if SSD is working fine; eventually do one or two benchmarks to see if it is behaving normally;

Note: if you haven't already, set the Bios to operate in AHCI mode, instead of IDE mode. SSD's work best in this mode. If you haven't selected this before installing Windows to the HDD, do it right before installing Windows to the SSD. Don't do it while still booting from the HDD, otherwise the computer will freeze at startup because Windows will not have installed the proper AHCI drivers. If you really want tot boot from the HDD using AHCI, there is a registry modification you can do, or even download a hotfix from Microsoft that will do it for you.

4. After being sure the SSD is working like intended, reboot, go into BIOS and alter the boot order, making the SSD first to boot within the HDD/SSD storage options;

5. Still in the BIOS, if you have it disabled, enable Boot from DVD-RW drive first, only disks after; Save and exit BIOS;

Edit: disconnect the HDD where the OS currently is. Kramy explains why in the post right after this one. Thanks to him!

6. Insert Windows install disk into DVD-RW and boot; select install OS to the SSD; install OS, etc, etc, until it is done;


7. Finally, to save space on you HDD, you can start thinking of deleting the Windows 7 installation from it and any programs you might have installed there. Sometimes that HDD has all the contents protected against deletion, so you should first go to disc's properties, security tab, and take ownership of it. After taking ownership make sure you have all the rights to view and delete files from that HDD.

And you're done. This way you can keep the entire library of Videos / Music / Photos on the HDD.

Oh, if you don't want to save anything on the Videos / Music / Photos / Documents folders on the SSD, just right click on each library's properties and remove the current location and select the location on the HDD.

You can also do it for the Downloads folder, so that each time you download something from the web, it is written to the HDD and not the SSD.

Hope that helps!

Enjoy your SSD!


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I would definitely go with a clean install, also no need to disconnect you HDD, just boot from USB/DVD and it'll be fine.
Don't listen to this. If your HDD is your current boot drive, then Windows Setup will detect that and keep all the boot files on it. (rather than the SSD)

Then if you ever remove the drive, or need to format it fully, you've got a huge mess.

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Also if you're installing W7 then you don't really need any tweaks but I do recommend having your Documents/Users Folders and PageFile all on a another drive.
Don't listen to this either. Search Google for SSD tweaks. I think there's a tweak tool on OCZ's forums.

If you want your SSD to last as long as possible and remain as fast as possible, you need to tweak your OS a bit. All it takes is downloading a program and ticking some checkboxes.

I'd keep my user profile on my SSD (since I want everything to be fast) and manually save downloads/docs/pictures/etc. onto a storage drive.
     
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Don't listen to this. If your HDD is your current boot drive, then Windows Setup will detect that and keep all the boot files on it. (rather than the SSD)

Then if you ever remove the drive, or need to format it fully, you've got a huge mess.


Don't listen to this either. Search Google for SSD tweaks. I think there's a tweak tool on OCZ's forums.

If you want your SSD to last as long as possible and remain as fast as possible, you need to tweak your OS a bit. All it takes is downloading a program and ticking some checkboxes.

I'd keep my user profile on my SSD (since I want everything to be fast) and manually save downloads/docs/pictures/etc. onto a storage drive.



Windows 7 only needs the tweaks I mentioned earlier. It does the rest by itself. The rest needed is usually done by the applications provided with the SSD. The tweaks you can find on the web are already applied by Windows 7, like disabling defragmentation scheduling for SSD's (it appears in the defragmentation list tough, which is what leads some to confusion, but if you dig deeper you'll see it's off the defragmentation schedule), and disabling superfetch (again, for SSD drives, which can also lead to some confusion), etc.

You don't have to manually save downloads/docs/pictures/etc on the storage drive, that is a waste of time as you'll soon realise because you do it everyday. Just redefine each library location to the original folders on the HDD, that way the default places for music, documents, etc, will be on the HDD.
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Errr.. don't listen to this.
Okay, then enjoy having boot data split across two drives.
     
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Originally Posted by Kramy View Post
Okay, then enjoy having boot data split across two drives.

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My apologies. You are right. Rep to you Sir!

I gave you the benefit of the doubt and turned off the PC, and disconnected the 1TB HDD, where the OS used to be. I never had the need to do it until now because I have Steam installed on the HDD, along with all the games.

It didn't boot, the Boot manager is missing. I tought I had dealt with that by deleting the entry in msconfig. Apparently that does not move everything to the SSD.

I will correct my previous posts right now. Don't want to be spreading misleading information.

Thanks once again, and sorry about that everyone.
 
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Samsung SSD 830 128GB + WD Caviar Black 1TB Sony Optiarc DVD-RW Corsair A70 + Noiseblocker M12-P Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 
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