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Hey guys, what is up. I am pretty new to the overclock scene, but I am not a complete noob. I know alot more than your average pc user which says alot in this time and age lmao. Anyways I am trying to overclock my Mobility HD5870 but am running into a bit of a problem. Well MSI Afterburner freezes my pc upon running the program so I downloaded the AMD GPU tool. I try to set the new clocks and when I press OK and the screen closes I open up GPU-Z to see if the clocks have been set but it still shows them as default settings.

I've been trying to read up as much info as I can in OC'ing the HD5870 but I find little to guide me. I did read somewhere that the AMD GPU tool only OC one of the cards (I forgot to mention I have 2 cards, Crossfire). And also when I use the AMD tool it shows 2 devices and the clock settings for both of them are way different. The first one says 700/1000 and the second one is 99/150. What does that mean? And I've been hearing about processor OC'ing, would that give me more of a performance boost ingames than the GPU OCing?

I don't expect any one to post a 1000000 word explanation (although that would be awesome lol) but mabye give me some links and help me a bit if you have the time and the patience. Anyways, thanks for reading this.

Also here is my specs:

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Alienware M17x x64 based
Intel Core i5 CPU M540 @2.53GHz, 2 Cores, 4 Logical Processors
AIT Mobility Radeon HD5870 (2) Crossfire
3DMark11 Benchmark Score: P3603
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Remove ATI tools and stick with afterburner.

In the catalyst control centre, under ati overdrive heading (I think) on the left hand side, make sure your cards are unlocked by pressing the padlock symbol. A warning will come up but just click OK. Now ensure your crossfire is enabled under the crossfire heading.

Once all that is done you then want to go to the directory where afterburner is installed and open the msi afterburner.cfg file with notepad. In there at the bottom there is a blank heading that you want to make look like this:

unofficialoverclockingEULA = I confirm that I am aware of unofficial overclocking limitations and fully understand that MSI will not provide me any support on it (just copy and paste this in).

Then change the following as well:

unofficialoverclockingmode = 1 (instead of = 0).

Now that is done you want to open up afterburner, go to settings and enable the voltage settings at the bottom. Also ensure that the box to apply settings to multiple gpu's at the top is ticked aswell.

This process is a pain in the arse but has to be done if you want to adjust voltage and go above 900mhz. I know as I have four of these.

Before you start overclocking the first thing you want to do is set a custom fan profile in afterburner. Set a straight line from 0-0 to 100-100 and then make sure your profile is activated.

Now the overclock its self has to be done carefully of you risk damage to your card. I can't go into detail now as its late and Im knackered. I would set your voltage to 1200mv and your core to 900mhz and run some tests and monitor your temps through afterburner. Stay under 80 degrees and you should be alright. The lower the better. To test it just play a game and try running some 3dmark software and stuff like occt. Theres plenty of stuff out there. A little research and you will find it. If your system or driver doesnt crash and you dont get any artifacts on your sceen and your temps are good then you can try push some more. Leave your voltage as it is but push your core up by 10 or 20mhz. If its stable, all good, if not then knock it back. Up your voltage a bit and then start again. I dont think you should be really going above 1250mv. 1200mv is probably all you should do for 24/7 use. Someone may correct me on this.

Theres plenty there for you at the moment but at the end of the day there is an abundance of information detailing the steps to be taken when overclocking. I reccommend doing a little more research because at the end of the day overclocking can be a one way trip towards a dead graphics card.

Have fun and enjoy. Let us know how you get on.
Edited by Jokah - 7/24/11 at 4:14pm
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I also recommend going into Task Manager and getting rid of the CCC.exe process after you've enabled your crossfire. CCC and Afterburner don't like working with each other.

Follow what Jokah said about the .cfg file and you should see some smooth sailing. Try to google up others with your mobility cards and see what kind of voltages they use and what kind of clocks they get and slowly try to get up there yourself.
    
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Thanks for the help guys but unfortunately its not working. I tried everything above, writing the change in the CFG file, ending CCC, reinstalling the program, and even trying to run the program in WinXP compatibility but nothing. The program still freezes upon running and I have to do a hard reboot.
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Something will be conflicting with afterburner. I remember having a similar issue when running my cards on xp with after burner.

I would uninstall after burner and also uninstall any other kind if sensor monitoring or performance altering software you may have installed. Things like ati tools, lavasoft everest, rivatuner. Anything that alters fan profiles or anything like that then get rid of it completely. I've never used alienware but they might have there own software for such things installed. That will need to be removed too.

Once you you have done that you should reinstall your graphics driver and then reinstall afterburner.

I found on mine that it was the asus ai tune software that was not cooperating with the ati driver and afterburner.

For some reason multiple 5870's, the ati driver and afterburner together are very fussy and a bit of pain to get to get to work with each other.
Edited by Jokah - 7/25/11 at 4:43am
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Good Idea. I will try to uninstall GPU/CPU-Z and if that doesnt work the ATI Catalyst control center to see if that is it.
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GPU and CPUz should not be causing a problem but it will do no harm to remove them. Best way with catalyst is to uninstall everything to do with it. Control centre, drivers, manager. Do a complete uninstall then just reinstall the driver by its self. You can get just the driver from the ati website.

Could you post a screen shot with task manager open on the processes so we can see what is running?
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Hm, I did uninstall the cpu/gpu along with the amd tool. Nothing, but here is something interesting, after uninstalling those programs and re-installed MSI and rebooted in safe mode. Now when I ran the program it actually didn't freeze my PC thank god lol. But an error message came up that said "Failed to load RT.Core64.sys Driver". I don't know if that could be the root of the problem all along or if that just came up because I was running in safe mode. I will uninstall CCC and just install the driver and see if that works, but without CCC how can I change the options I could change in CCC? And thanks alot for the help man, I seriously appreciate it.

Oh and here is a scrnsht of task manager running in normal mode:

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/706/asasy.png/
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Looking at your task manager I would uninstall the following;

Alienware alienFX controller
Alienfusioncontroller
Logitech gaming framework
Blackwidow system tray

I think alien fusion controller may be the key one here but it wouldn't hurt to remove the others to be sure.

I know its a farce but you can always reinstall these later. When you do I would do it one by one and check msi afterburner after each one so you can identify the culprit.

With regards to to just installing the catalys driver I would ignore that or I dont think your crossfire will work. Follow the rest though. Uninstall these items as well as CCC and afterburner but then reinstall CCC and the ati driver. The whole pacakge. Then install afterburner and carry out the adjutments mentioned in my first post.

If this fails then i would uninstall again and maybe try a previous ati driver.

Failing that I would probably have to try a fresh install of windows. Making sure to only install the bare minimum to make sure there is nothing on there to conflict with it. I would also ensure windows is fully up to date before installing afterburner.

I would just like to say that I am no expert and there may be better things for you to try. What I have mentioned is what I would do. At least you have somethong to try.
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I tried shutting down all those programs in task manager and then running it but still nothing. I read somewhere that Afterburner does not support any mobililty gpu and does not plan to in the near future, but that was written over a year ago. So I guess maybe that must be the reason why.

I don't even have the option to OC in the CCC, I wrote an email to AMD asking if the drivers support Overdrive for my card, still waiting for a response. Man, I should of just gotten a Desktop lol seriously. But thanks for the help.
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