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post #11 of 25
I have a 5470 in an old laptop.. Its not necessarily horrible, being for a laptop.. But llano should be better.
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Depends on what your doing...the A8 has a much superior ondie GPU, faster than a 6470 by a significant margin, and uses less power, but in computing tasks, the i7 will destroy the A8.
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OK, so for light gaming + work, what's better?

A8-3530mx (with the dGPU 6750 which xfired you'll get the 6755g2)
or
i7 2630QM + dGPU 6770M ???
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OK, so for light gaming + work, what's better?

A8-3530mx (with the dGPU 6750 which xfired you'll get the 6755g2)
or
i7 2630QM + dGPU 6770M ???
i7 will smoke it since its a Quad.
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post #15 of 25
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i7 will smoke it since its a Quad.
The A8-3530MX its a Quad too...but it"s an APU.
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Yup and the I7 is a mobile variant. And that benchmark, wow. Shame they didn't pit the A8 against the mobile variants there. Would love to see how those compare. Wait is this the laptop Llano based chip? Or are they the same thing...
It's the same thing

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OK, so for light gaming + work, what's better?

A8-3530mx (with the dGPU 6750 which xfired you'll get the 6755g2)
or
i7 2630QM + dGPU 6770M ???
For light gaming the better is the cheaper. Meaning the A8.
I don't get it why some people think A8 is a slow CPU, that's so far off..
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For light gaming the better is the cheaper. Meaning the A8.
I don't get it why some people think A8 is a slow CPU, that's so far off..
Well, the difference in price for the DV6TQE and the DV6ZQE with coupons it's just 100 bucks, and the i7 performs a lot better than the A8. The reason people believe it is slow, it's because of the benchmarks....i can't even outperform the i5 in some of them!
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It's the same thing



For light gaming the better is the cheaper. Meaning the A8.
I don't get it why some people think A8 is a slow CPU, that's so far off..
Its still based on a 2yr old architecture, but I don't think games will be CPU bottlenecked here.

I7's are being bottlenecked by their GPU as far as the 6470 goes?

And A8's are bottlenecked by GPU as well, so the better performing GPU WOULD perform better right?
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Its still based on a 2yr old architecture, but I don't think games will be CPU bottlenecked here.

I7's are being bottlenecked by their GPU as far as the 6470 goes?

And A8's are bottlenecked by GPU as well, so the better performing GPU WOULD perform better right?
Yes, that was my reasoning too.
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The a8 in the dv6zqe is easily overclocked using H10stat to bring all four cores from 1.9 up to between 2.6 and 3.0. I don't anyone who hasn't been able to get to 2.6. The 6750 is the same silicon as a 6770, just lower clocked but that is easily remedied by one of the amd gpu utilities, I've heard good results from the MSI one. Btw, the overclocking of the A8 can be done while UNDERVOLTING at the same time. Massive conservatism by AMD on specc'ing these things and good job by HP in handling power and cooling in the dv6.
Throw in the free blueray optical disk, six gigs, the base 640gig 5400 (7200 rpm just a few bux more) and the 30% off coupon (for ones configured at 999. etc.; and its a pretty fair deal.

Further, there appears to be a lot more gold to be mined from the LLano platform in the dv6. The on chip igpu is VERY sensitive, in a good way, to any increase in the base reference clock and using faster low latency memory. On the desktop version, they're getting around a 30 percent pop in performance by just using speedier memory. The ideal will be to up the base clock from 100 to around 130 or so. That coupled with new soon to be released 8gig 1600 cas 7 mem kits (4gigx2) will let both the proc and igpu sides of the "apu" really fly. Now if we can get updated drivers from AMD to clean up the 'dual graphics' anomalies (works in some instances, not so good in others) AND oclock the discreet 6550 to and beyond the 6770 levels,
the dv6 will respresent some serious *bang for buck*.

AND, all at temperatures that are surprisingly low.
Not bad, not bad at all.

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