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Yeah the game has horrible physics, racing wise. It's not made for a steering wheel that's for sure, I couldn't play it with the wheel. When I used the controller I could easily drift but all in all very average game.

Like the guy above me said, you have to be quick with the counter steer and if you're playing on 900 degrees then good luck lol.
Thank you, I'm glad I'm not the only one. And I only have a Momo so I don't have 900 degrees (and I would've limited it anyway if I had).
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lol my bad. I get you now

Well yeah... it's a Codemasters game... Nuff said
I don't know, Dirt 2 has nice FFB. It's not strong, but it works and you can tell when ****'s going down. F1 2010 drives decently too, although I won't comment on whether it's realistic or not.
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Yeah but I'm a corvette guy who loves Jan.
Maybe if they gave his class more coverage, but at the Le Mans it's all about the ZOMG FAST cars. I watch it for the LMP1s and then check up on the status of the other classes once in a while.

EDIT: Oh, and I've already tried all sims out there. You know, I like them, but I don't see myself playing them at the moment. 'Specially the subscription based games, I do not make enough money to play those (well, I do, but I get $30/month in allowance and I have this PC hobby that I need to fuel). When I get a better wheel perhaps, but that won't be anytime soon.
Edited by B!0HaZard - 7/24/11 at 5:23pm
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You should give GTR Evolution a go if you haven't yet, very nice sim.
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Thank you, I'm glad I'm not the only one. And I only have a Momo so I don't have 900 degrees (and I would've limited it anyway if I had).

I don't know, Dirt 2 has nice FFB. It's not strong, but it works and you can tell when ****'s going down. F1 2010 drives decently too, although I won't comment on whether it's realistic or not.


Maybe if they gave his class more coverage, but at the Le Mans it's all about the ZOMG FAST cars. I watch it for the LMP1s and then check up on the status of the other classes once in a while.

EDIT: Oh, and I've already tried all sims out there. You know, I like them, but I don't see myself playing them at the moment. 'Specially the subscription based games, I do not make enough money to play those (well, I do, but I get $30/month in allowance and I have this PC hobby that I need to fuel). When I get a better wheel perhaps, but that won't be anytime soon.
The momo is still a great wheel (crap pedals though). As for iRacing cost I don't pay a monthly fee I bought the yearly subscription.

GTR2, rFactor, LFS, RBR are all great but I like iRacing because it starts you off in less powerful "learning cars" just like in real life. It also matches your skill level so the racing is always competitive. Like I said if you have never tried it that link will get you one month for $5 US.

As for never driving a real car....neither has Huttu so I wouldn't worry about it, also like I said you're Danish....it is in your blood, you could probably go out and drive the wheels off a car after only an hour of tutor.
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The momo is still a great wheel (crap pedals though). As for iRacing cost I don't pay a monthly fee I bought the yearly subscription.

GTR2, rFactor, LFS, RBR are all great but I like iRacing because it starts you off in less powerful "learning cars" just like in real life. It also matches your skill level so the racing is always competitive. Like I said if you have never tried it that link will get you one month for $5 US.

As for never driving a real car....neither has Huttu so I wouldn't worry about it, also like I said you're Danish....it is in your blood, you could probably go out and drive the wheels off a car after only an hour of tutor.
I'm guessing Huttu is that Finnish guy who won all those tournaments and got to race a real car? And lol @ in my blood, Danes don't know crap 'bout driving (except we have to learn how to use a manual car). My dad came 3rd in a competition for young drivers once though. He did that in a van (all cars permitted) with a leg in plaster after getting his leg almost cut off in a motorcycle accident...

Anyway, back on topic, you said that the Momo's pedals are crap (and I agree that they seem... Flimsy...), what does one get when using for example G25 pedals? How are they better? I've been looking at Fanatec for a while, but I heard their support is a nightmare and that the wheels break a lot so I guess I'll have to go Logitech again... (not that I don't like them)
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I'm guessing Huttu is that Finnish guy who won all those tournaments and got to race a real car? And lol @ in my blood, Danes don't know crap 'bout driving (except we have to learn how to use a manual car). My dad came 3rd in a competition for young drivers once though. He did that in a van (all cars permitted) with a leg in plaster after getting his leg almost cut off in a motorcycle accident...

Anyway, back on topic, you said that the Momo's pedals are crap (and I agree that they seem... Flimsy...), what does one get when using for example G25 pedals? How are they better? I've been looking at Fanatec for a while, but I heard their support is a nightmare and that the wheels break a lot so I guess I'll have to go Logitech again... (not that I don't like them)
I don't know about that, Danes, Fins, and Germans are some of the best drivers in the world.

As for the wheel (G27) and pedals; Compared to the Momo they are leaps and bounds better. First you get a clutch, second they have a more solid feel, third the spring tension is greater especially on the brake. You can also get the Nixim brake mod (and others) that make them feel even better.

I personally run the G25 with the fanatec CSP's and they are amazing mid range pedals (load cell is awesome). As for support I can only go on my experience, and so far so good.

Fanatec's wheels on the other hand do seem to break pretty frequently, so even though they are better then the Logitech's, they aren't as reliable. They do have new gen's coming out though so hopefully they worked out all the kinks.

Then of course you have the Ts500 which is just beast. It is on the higher end of the mid range scale (keep in mind the "high end" scale would be more of your commercial $800+ range stuff).

I know a lot of people actually use the DFGT (http://www.logitech.com/gaming/wheels/devices/4172) then get good quality pedals....but like I said that momo is still a really good wheel (and honestly the DFGT kit by itself shouldn't replace the momo as the pedals are still junk).

Sim racing is all about the brake, the better feel you have with the brake the faster you will be.

I am trying to put together a resource post for people interested in racing games. It might be useful but it is still a work in progress.....http://www.overclock.net/pc-games/10...imulators.html

But like I said if you are interested in simulators iRacing is the way to go. Like I said it's nice because it actually starts you off slow just like in real life and match's your competition and skill level so you don't get discouraged by super fast people who have been playing for years. It is definitely the perfect tool for people who are new to simulators and people who have been playing them for years.


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Ok, so I retract my first statement. It's not impossible to play this. I've gotten the handling down, just won the GT1 class at Le Mans on Savage difficulty (second hardest) and yes, Zippy, I was driving a Corvette. There's still something very wrong with the physics and handling though.
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Ok, so I retract my first statement. It's not impossible to play this. I've gotten the handling down, just won the GT1 class at Le Mans on Savage difficulty (second hardest) and yes, Zippy, I was driving a Corvette. There's still something very wrong with the physics and handling though.
Well when I played grid years ago on xbox I remember not really having to brake so.......maybe don't brake.

But remember it is an arcade game.
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Racing games are easy on a keyboard. The key to turn is rapid tapping of the keys, not holding them down, otherwise you'll oversteer.

Also don't break, just stop accelerating, with corners anyway.
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the game reviewer who described it must be a pc noob ahahaha.
Grid car handling is almost the same with Dirt 3.
You can remap the keys if you want but just use the default steering settings.
Its easy, you should master it within 2-3 races.
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Racing games are easy on a keyboard. The key to turn is rapid tapping of the keys, not holding them down, otherwise you'll oversteer.

Also don't break, just stop accelerating, with corners anyway.
I'm using a wheel, but you're right about the braking, not really needed much.
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the game reviewer who described it must be a pc noob ahahaha.
Grid car handling is almost the same with Dirt 3.
You can remap the keys if you want but just use the default steering settings.
Its easy, you should master it within 2-3 races.
Except he's right. There's a pendulum effect that's not present in Dirt 2 or F1 2010. If you need to know, it was a reviewer at InsideSimRacing. He also noted the bad FFB and other things. If you check their Dirt 2 review, they mention that the FFB and physics have been improved and that the pendulum effect is gone (and it isn't in Dirt 3 or F1 2010 either). It was the same guy too.
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Ok, so I retract my first statement. It's not impossible to play this. I've gotten the handling down, just won the GT1 class at Le Mans on Savage difficulty (second hardest) and yes, Zippy, I was driving a Corvette. There's still something very wrong with the physics and handling though.
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Well when I played grid years ago on xbox I remember not really having to brake so.......maybe don't brake.

But remember it is an arcade game.
I actually use the brake quite often, but you're right that the game is very throttle friendly. I was wondering, do you play for an iRacing team or something?
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