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So just maybe thirty minutes ago, I was on my computer as usual. I had just overclocked it to 4Ghz and was stress testing again. Alongside that I was just about to reply to someone's thread on here. Suddenly (I use a Vizio 32" television so it doesn't work with the computer like other monitors.) the TV went black and then blue saying that there was no input. So I assumed that something just went wrong with the test and I have to fix the overclock. No big deal.
Now it IS a big deal. I assumed I had to wait until the little power light stopped flashing so I could turn it back on, then it wouldn't power on. I assumed that was some sort of timing device implemented in the PSU, because it did this before when I accidentally turned it off messing with a fan once before. Then it just wouldn't turn back on. So I unplugged everything and retried. I turned the switch in the back off and then retried. I unplugged it, waited, pressed the buttons to discharge anything, plugged it back in and retried. Nothing. I rechecked my wiring to see if anything was getting grounded, and still nothing. I pulled out another PSU, but I really doubt it would turn anything on. Mine's 500w and 24 pin. It's 300w, very old, and 20 pin. What should I do? I did plug it up, but unfortunately it didn't even turn on.

So....yeah. I need suggestions. Would anyone be kind enough to help a guy out? (I'm totally broke. So if it broke, I'm pretty much screwed for college in a month with this netbook...)
    
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Did you reset the CMOS by taking out the motherboard battery or tripping the CMOS reset jumper? Will the PSU power on when you plug a paperclip into the 24 pin ATX cable; use the paper clip to connect a black wire to the green wire, black being ground, green being on. Unplug the PSU from the computer components prior to jumping.
Edited by tubnotub1 - 7/24/11 at 9:22pm
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Yes. And -goes to try it- nope. Doesn't power on. Its fan gives a little jerk, but doesn't move it. Does that mean new PSU? Or does that mean new system because the PSU broke everything?
    
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post #4 of 11
Probably just a new PSU, that is definitely the first thing you need to try. After that you can start troubleshooting other issues, if any remain.
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Alright. I will go find one tomorrow I guess. I appreciate the help. One more question: If there are any more problems, and I ask for help here, should I post back on this thread or simply start a new one?
    
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Originally Posted by Dingo3 View Post
Alright. I will go find one tomorrow I guess. I appreciate the help. One more question: If there are any more problems, and I ask for help here, should I post back on this thread or simply start a new one?
Post back in this thread, ill check up on it every once and a while

Also id like to remind you guys, report do not feed the trolls
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post #7 of 11
You fried your VRMs
Never OC 125W processor on weak low end MSI board (See: About VRMs & MOSFETs, link in my sig)

There have been many uninformed who have suffered as you have...

You need a new motherboard. Something a bit more expensive, something with at least a quality 4+1 VRM with cooling to handle 125W+ processor. You can RMA your current one and (hopefully if anything else wasn't damaged) continue to run the 955 on that board, but do not pass stock speed/voltage and use the stock cooler; you might even want to consider undervolting for normal operation. The VRMs are just not ready.
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Originally Posted by xd_1771 View Post
You fried your VRMs
Never OC 125W processor on weak low end MSI board (See: About VRMs & MOSFETs, link in my sig)

There have been many uninformed who have suffered as you have...

You need a new motherboard. Something a bit more expensive, something with at least a quality 4+1 VRM with cooling to handle 125W+ processor. You can RMA your current one and (hopefully if anything else wasn't damaged) continue to run the 955 on that board, but do not pass stock speed/voltage and use the stock cooler; you might even want to consider undervolting for normal operation. The VRMs are just not ready.
^^
this it has happened to me before and i had the same symptoms as you.
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So I have to buy a new PSU AND motherboard. Fantastic. How will I know which motherboard to get? And I bought all my stuff a few months ago from Newegg, and have never RMA'd anything. Will it still work now and is there some place that can walk me through it so I get everything right?
    
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post #10 of 11
Hey Dingo3,

While I am sure you appreciate the input of the above two poster's I would say their diagnosis is a little premature and overzealous, especially considering the fact that we *know* that your power supply will not start.

Start out by just replacing the power supply, if that does not resolve the issue you will then start checking the other components.

As far as which motherboard to choose (and that is assuming your current one is defective, which we have *no* way of knowing until you get a new power supply) I would suggest making a new thread on these forums asking for advice. I am sure many people would be willing to post information about their experiences, and advise you on which motherboard is best for your budget. (xd_1771 has some good links in his signature, maybe check them out)

The RMA process for the most part is relatively simple, though it should be stated you would be RMAing through each part's individual manufacture.

Antec RMA Information

MSI RMA Information

@ xd_1771

It appears you have gone to great lengths to document the issues people are having with lower quality motherboards. While the root of this issue could possibly be the motherboard (as well as the power supply), I think it is pertinent to base one's conclusions on what he currently knows. In this case we know Dingo3's power supply will not boot up when jumped using a paper clip. I am unsure of how you made the jump from "PSU not working... member should replace his motherboard to resolve issue". I would expect a more even keeled response from someone of your stature within the community.
Edited by tubnotub1 - 7/25/11 at 9:35am
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