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Msi boards nowadays are good, and ill say to some extent great, sure not asus/gigabyte overclockability, but they are great. The big bang marshal oc-es like no tomorrow, but its overshadowed by the lack of features (only sli) and the extra useless feature (lucid hydra >.>).
On the amd side of things its abit different, as alot of users burnd their mobo when ocing on higher TDP cpus. The power delivery couldnt handle it.
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I switched to an MSI Z68A-GD65 (B3) because I went through two Gigabyte GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3 motherboards that refused to boot cleanly 75% of the time. I had a choice of switching to either MSI or Asus, but what frustrated me about Asus is that they strip their non-flagship models of basic features like a PS/2 port (P8Z68-V/P8Z68-V Pro) or a decent number of SATA connectors (P8Z68-V). That Intel LAN may be nice, but it's not worth the premium to me when I can't even keep my keyboard.

I'm happy with the Z68A-GD65 so far. It behaves predictably and it overclocks my i5-2500K to 4.6GHz at a lower voltage than the GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3 did. Also, the fan headers don't fight manual voltage controllers, and most importantly, I like being able to actually boot into Windows. The MSI UEFI might not be as nice as what Asus offers, but at least they have UEFI and it is better than the traditional BIOS (I'm looking at you, Gigabyte).

My only previous experience with MSI was a K7T Turbo2 that was in a build I did for my parents years ago. While it didn't have any issues, it always felt sluggish and slow. I definitely wasn't impressed by MSI's Socket A offering like I was with my Iwill KK266+ at the time. The next build I did for them a few years ago was with a Gigabyte GA-M57SLI-S4 and it's been flawless, which was why I tried Gigabyte this time with my Sandy Bridge build. It will be a long time before I give Gigabyte another shot, but the Z68A-GD65 has changed my mediocre and indifferent opinion of MSI for the better.
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I bought my first MSI board in April after years of ASUS boards. My current board is a Big Bang Marshal. 2 friends of mine has the Big Bang XPower and another has the P67A-GD65. Both are rock solid boards and my Marshal is everything I expected it to be. Easy to OC on and a pleasure coming from years of ASUS boards. I wouldn't hesitate to buy another MSI.

I'd say over the last year and a half, MSI has improved the most amongst all other motherboard manufacturers.

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post #14 of 62
I havent had any problems.

It's the losers that screw one up or get a bad board and decide to start an entire MSI Hate Thread/Club. That's why they get a bad wrap.
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The MSI P67A-GD65 B3 is in the same Price range as a ASUS P8P67 PRO B3 Here in Norway, yet the MSI board only has half the CPU power phases VS the ASUS board, and looks to have less features in general.

This is my impression of the Intel MSI boards, the mid-end boards almost always have way to few CPU Power Phases VS the competition, yet they charge the same. And this has been the case for years.
    
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post #16 of 62
can only speak for myself
my asus AM3 board, somehow had a defect bios from start (got worse now last weeks)
my friend's Asus deluxe used with Intel E8500 was unstable (got a P67 for i5)
my sisters asus laptop, crashed (got a new mobo on warranty)

my sisters MSI Intel Core2duo system, still lives.
my other friend that bought my MSI amd system still lives (first gen 64bit)
and due to that, im going with msi specially since another friend bought a P67 and it works flawless
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can only speak for myself
my asus AM3 board, somehow had a defect bios from start (got worse now last weeks)
my friend's Asus deluxe used with Intel E8500 was unstable (got a P67 for i5)
my sisters asus laptop, crashed (got a new mobo on warranty)

my sisters MSI Intel Core2duo system, still lives.
my other friend that bought my MSI amd system still lives (first gen 64bit)
and due to that, im going with msi specially since another friend bought a P67 and it works flawless
I have bad experience with ASUS P45 motherboards.. Like the ASUS P5Q PRO Turbo and P5Q-E... They did not seem to handle days/weeks uptime in Windows, even If I used overclocks that was rock solid and tested.

They would eventually BSOD. And I needed to do a clear cmos and take out battery for the overclock to be stable again. These boards suffer from RAM problems. Stability issues over time, no matter what RAM is used.

For my secondary system, I got so annoyed at my two ASUS boards that I installed my old Gigabyte GA-P35 DS3R. It has been up in Windows for almost 9 days now. Not one single issue.

In my impression, each generation of motherboards will differ from each manufacturer... In my opinion Gigabyte had the best 775 boards, and ASUS had too many issues...

As regards to the 1155 generation, ASUS has very solid boards whereas Gigabyte has serious issues with regards to the Boot Loop Cycle bug.

As to MSI, as I've said, as long as I can remember, they've always used weak CPU Power delivery VS the competition, yet they charge the same price. Many of the 775 and 1155 MSI boards I've seen has way to weak CPU power delivery for any serious overclocking.


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dfi had the best 775 boards, gigabyte didnt come close to their quality at that time, now everyone is using digi vrm in high end motherboards, but all dfi high end boards had it

msi is fine, and the power phase thing means nothing, all that matter is how much voltage the mosfets can regulate, msi uses bigger mosfets, their drMos technology, thats why they have less phases
I do not agree. Gigabyte had the only boards that could really make a C2Q stable at 500FSB +. DFI probably had the best socket 754/939 Athlon 64/X2 boards though. Their Lan Party Series was excellent.
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dfi had the best 775 boards, gigabyte didnt come close to their quality at that time, now everyone is using digi vrm in high end motherboards, but all dfi high end boards had it

msi is fine, and the power phase thing means nothing, all that matter is how much voltage the mosfets can regulate, msi uses bigger mosfets, their drMos technology, thats why they have less phases
post #19 of 62
New ones are fine, AMD don't touch with a 10 foot pole, only mobo I returned was MSI but older stuff was not near the new mobo's quality. Basically you get what you pay for same as anything else.
    
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That said, any mobo can fail. No matter what brand. I've probably built 100 (Or have no idea) systems since 1995. Tried all kinds of brands. Cannot remember any particular brand failing. In fact, have a hard time to remember any motherboard who has failed.

This is overclock.net. What I'm saying, at least make sure the board has a good enough CPU power delivery, and keep an eye out for brands/boards that has many posts about bugs/issues that cannot be resolved easily (Like Gigabyte P67/Z68 Boot-loop-issue).

I haven't heard of any particular bugs or issues with MSI's P67/Z68 boards, but as I've said, they have to weak CPU Power Delivery in my opinion.

The Asus boards are very solid and if there are issues they are easily resolved by a few bios tweaks. ASRock also seems to have very solid boards.

But each to his own. I'm just stating my opinion.
    
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